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#2299 of 23397 Yellowman: Gas Mileage
May 01, 2001 (7:03 pm)
My 98 Wrangler Sport has the quickest dropping gas needle in the last portion of the gauge of any vehicle I've owned. The good news is there's actually over a gallon of gas in my tank even when the needle reads "E". I've actually gone below the "E" several times - not a regular practice of mine but it has happened.
Here's what I would recommend you do for peace of mind ( I've actually done this in all 3 of our vehicles ): Purchase a two gallon gas can and fill it up. Put the filled can in the "trunk" of the Wrangler. When your getting low on gas start watching for the exact mileage that the low gas light comes on. When the light comes on, write down the mileage. Then keep driving. That evening, take the Jeep out and run it until you run out of gas. Write down the mileage, subtract the first number and you will see how far you can really go with the light on. (Of course this can change slightly from tank to tank but at least you have an idea of the range) Put the two gallons from the can in, check to see what your gauge reads with only two gallons, and then head for the gas station and fill it up. Try it - its kind of fun.
In 1998, the standard tank was 15 gallons and the larger tank was 19. I don't know if that has changed but if you have a 19 gallon tank and you put in 17.5 gallons as you said, you still would have had 1.5 gallons in there - exactly how my gauge reads.
Good Luck. Craig.
May 01, 2001 (7:34 pm)
Thanks for the advice, but I don't think I want to run out of gas, even if I have some in a can to put in - I heard it's pretty bad for the engine. I think I'm just going to use tsjay's method of checking mileage, and then filling up as soon as the light goes on. I was mostly worried that there was some problem with either my guage or with the engine itself, maybe a gas leak or something. It is nice to know I can make it a little ways on Empty, but I hate to even do that.
May 01, 2001 (7:57 pm)
ok i dont know what just happened... but i posted a real long message and its not there..... am i crazy? ok so i'll give it to you all short version style.... the dealer jerked me around real good so i packed it up after 4 days of BS and i went to Country jeep in agawam anyway.... after 3 hours of talk and driving different jeeps and hanging out with some down to earth cool guys i am now purchasing a 2001 wrangler sport, automatic with the canyon wheels and the 30" tires, side steps, sound bar, full middle console, blah blah blah... all the goodies. yellow they have in stock... but they are searching for a patriot blue for me... if that doesnt work i always have the yellow. total price..... $20,609 did i get a good price? does anyone know where i can get a cheap soft top? and does anyone know about the sound bar.. i rememeber someone posting it before i forget who though.. about the 6 1/2's fitting in place of the 5 1/4's. what kind of setup does everyone have sound wise? i waslooking at either alpine in the front and cerwin vega in the back or boston accoustic all around...?
- Jay -
#2302 of 23397 styles, now wait a minute
May 01, 2001 (8:11 pm)
Didn't you post on Sunday that you had just bought a Patriot Blue Sport?
I am totally confused. I thought you took that baby home on Sunday, you know, a "done deal." That's the way it sounded, anyway.
Anyway, the price doesn't sound bad at all, but you need to tell us how much over invoice that was. If you paid $200 over invoice or less, and that's not counting the rebate, then you did well.
Please tell us what happened to that Jeep you were supposed to have bought on Sunday. My curiosity is killing me.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
#2303 of 23397 yellowman
May 01, 2001 (8:46 pm)
I understand your concerns but actually I've heard its only the catalytic converter that suffers if you run on empty consistently - several times is not a problem. Running out of gas will not harm a modern engine. Years ago, gasoline was not mixed with as many detergents and additives and the last portion of the tank tended to be the dirtiest - thats why you heard it was bad to "run on empty." Improved gasoline and fuel filters have eliminated most of those concerns. Of course, that doesn't mean I think it's a good practice.
Just thought I'd let you know I've performed that "2 gallon test" on 12 different vehicles since 1979 - never had a problem from it and put close to 100k miles on almost all of them. I like knowing exactly how my gauge reads. The only thing I've noticed when I run out of gas is . . . the car won't go. Craig
#2304 of 23397 Crash tests
May 01, 2001 (10:56 pm)
Since there has been some talk about safety recently, I thought that I'd post the links to the crash tests for the Wrangler. Sorry to have to say that it doesn't do particularly well in the IIHS 40 mph offset crash (this crash test mainly tests the strength of the safety cage + the vehicle's structure). Might want to be aware about what can happen before removing those doors! A consoldation though, the Wrangler did quite well in the NHTSA's flat barrier test, which emphasises the effectiveness of the vehicle's restraints systems. However, it is not as realistic as the IIHS's test since most of us don't crash into non-deformable concrete walls.
The Wrangler doesn't score particularly well as far as rollover propensity goes either, because of its high centre of gravity and short wheelbase. Just be aware of your vehicle's limitations, of course. There have been no side impact crash tests done on the Wrangler so far, but obviously the more metal surrounding you to absorb the energy the better.
Hope this helps!
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#2305 of 23397 Gas, gas tanks and fuel pump advice.
May 02, 2001 (1:36 am)
A bit of advice on the gas tank. Try to keep at least five gallons of gas in your tank because the electric fuel pump is in there. The five gallons of gas will help the fuel pump stay cool and by keeping the fuel pump cool it will last longer. If you like running your gas tank down to fumes constantly, the life of your fuel pump will be shorten and the high pressure fuel pump are not cheap to replace (labor will be at least one hundred and the last time I priced a pump was over $175.00)
Save a few bucks and run regular gas as oppose to the premium because the 4.0 motor is not a high compression motor and will run fine with regular gas.
If your getting into off roading, consider getting a skid plate for the gas tank because you may dent the gas tank (I have seen 19 gallon tanks turned into 15 gallon tanks with the help of gravity and a rock)or worse smack the fuel pump and wiping it out.
#2306 of 23397 Re: kids & Jeeps for Saharanut
May 02, 2001 (5:30 am)
I had both my kids, ages 4 & 7, sit in the back of the TJ. Since they are both over 40lbs, I now use the "bucket-like" carseat. I believe they call them boosters instead of infant seats. They look like mini bucketseats and they sit on the backseat and the rear belt goes around them AND the booster seat. It's for kids that are too big for infantseats and too small to ride just sitting on the seat. Worked out very well. If it could have been improved at all, I would have liked the retractor type seatbelts in the back. That's great for carseats because you can pull them out all the way and they they kinda "ratchet" back, forming an extermely snug & tight setup. Kids absolutley LOVED riding in the back on the Jeep. Of course it was the first day in Buffalo over 70 degrees and I had the top off the TJ for the test drive.
Ahhh... summer in a Jeep!! Does it get ANY better that that?
#2307 of 23397 Long time listener, first time caller
May 02, 2001 (9:09 am)
I have been reading the posts for a long time, and I thought I would actually contribute for once. This past weekend, I traded in my 98 Sunfire that was having all kinds of problems in on a 2000 Wrangler. I have wanted a Jeep since the 4th grade (yeah, that is before I could drive) and could never afford one (or so I thought!). My last car was having all kinds of problems (I found out it was wrecked before the dealer sold it to me - got to love finding that out!) so I took it back to the dealer and traded on a Jeep. I want to thank everyone for all of the helpful advice... picked up a lot of tips on what to look for and it helped me decide on what I finally wanted to get. I would have liked to have traded for a brand new Jeep, but I needed a replacement fast. I didn't get every option I was wanting, but so far, (even though it has only been 3 days) I have been very happy with it. I took it out with the top down on the first day, and also tried out the 4 wheel capabilities at my brother's woods. (It climbed a hill that looks to be almost 50 degrees at one point without even breathing hard) I am really happy with my purchase... can't imagine the wait after ordering a new Jeep. Good luck to anyone who is still waiting!
#2308 of 23397 tire preasure
May 02, 2001 (9:35 am)
I read some comment a while back about tire preasure, and when you picked it up from the dealer you said it was to high right. Well I decide to test my tire for the first time (I have the canyons) and saw they were at 45 PSI all around. I was going to lower it but a group of people told me it makes no difference. What's the deal.
Also all the people thinking of getting wranglers, if you are planning on putting big wheels on the car skip the track lock, because then you will need a full size spare also, If you run with a smaller tire, with track lock, for a long trip, it will wair out fast. So Skip it I now it is good, I have it, but if you are getting big tires you don't need it.
Well hope some one can help about tire preasure. I know 29 PSI is normal. I know that the preasure gauge is working, but the ties don't seem really hard, ie. I can push the side wall and get rebound. Opinions. how safe is it running at high preasure, and I think tire ware is not good when it is over inflated and milage also decreases. Are all these true?