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#22895 of 23397 Re:Is Jeep Wrangler a Good car for Chicago? by monsterzero_jr
Aug 13, 2007 (5:17 pm)
I bought my jeep (1995 YJ Wrangler) mainly for snowy winter roads, and I have not been disappointed. In 4x4 mode, I have a lot of traction and I feel more secure than I have in any 2wd vehicle. (My wife's 4wd Chrysler T/C minivan also feels quite secure.) You might value a Wrangler for winter driving (but don't get too enthusiastic - snow is still snow, and there are legions of SUV drivers who have found out the hard way that 4wd does not equal summer driving.)
I have driven my YJ on the highways, as far as 60 miles (one way) to work, and I took a trip from NY out to Ohio. I enjoy the Jeep - one of the few vehicles I have driven that does not feel like an appliance. I like the "mechanical" feel of being connected to the vehicle as opposed to being isolated by "systems" that separate the driver from the feel of the road and from the machine. (Bear in mind that my YJ is 2 generations removed from the current Wrangler - most notably with harder leaf springs rather than the current coil springs, and non-power steering, which is no longer offered.) Nevertheless, I gather from reviews I have read that the new Wrangler still offers much of the Jeep "experience" but in a more road-friendly format.
I have thought about adding a new Wrangler to my stable. I believe I would like it. As many say "It's a Jeep thing." Either you like it, or you don't - not much middle road. If you can find a way to put 100 highway miles on one (buddy's unit, or maybe a rental), you will probably know at the end of the ride whether you like it or not. You can't buy this vehicle with your head - you have to feel it.
Whatever choice you make - I hope it meets your needs and desires.
#22896 of 23397 Re:Re: Limited Slip Dif [dctalk] by comkrom
Aug 13, 2007 (5:36 pm)
Since you work there, maybe you might know.
Are there any plans for a flex fuel Wrangler? The 3.3 L V6 (which is offered as flex fuel) would almost certainly be a drop-in replacement for the 3.8 (since both motors are used in minivans). Or maybe the 3.8 will get a flex fuel option? I have a YJ with the AMC 2.5L I4 and I am not unhappy, but for a new vehicle, I would appreciate fuel options - just in case gas prices go through the roof as they have threatened to do.
#22897 of 23397 Re: Is Jeep Wrangler a Good car for Chicago? [monsterzero_jr]
Aug 14, 2007 (7:39 am)
I'm from Chicago and have owned an '05 Unlimited now for over 2 years. If you are getting a brand new '07 model, I can't attest too much for them. However, one thing I went with, and I'm very glad I did, is the dual tops. The hardtop is great for Chicago's winters, and every spring I switch it to my soft top, it's great driving around summertime, you can't beat cruising Lake Shore Drive topless.
Wranglers are not particularly famous for their 0-60 time, so I have to admit I do cringe everytime I have to merge onto the Kennedy or Eisenhower expressways.
#22898 of 23397 Re: Is Jeep Wrangler a Good car for Chicago? [monsterzero_jr]
Aug 14, 2007 (8:28 am)
I have a '06 Unlimited just a year old and I live in the suburbs of Atlanta and this is my daily car (except on the perfect top down days then its my wife's car and I would not trade it for anything. I drove an Audi A4 before buying my jeep and I do not regret the switch. My commute is made up of both highway driving, main roads and residential roads - about 50 miles each day and I spend between 1 1/2 to 2 hours a day commuting.
I drive about 70% of the time with the top down - thus it is noisy but I can't be bothered on a cell phone so I just focus on enjoying the day and the tunes - its my way to kick back and relax after a long day. 10% of the time I use the sun rider function that allows for partial open top with back window out - this is very loud as the side windows slap - but I love the sun. The other 20% is with closed up or the back window down it is noisy but not that bad.
Security - this is a pain, I need to find a good back end box as I am a CFO/IT person and always have at least one laptop with me - thus I lug my briefcase into home depot or the store when I go in a pain but not a big deal.
There are easier cars and more functional cars - but unless you pay over $125,000 you won't get the looks.
Bottom line - Jeeps are impractical but a whole lot of fun - Good luck
#22899 of 23397 Re:Is Jeep Wrangler a Good car for Chicago? by monsterzero_jr [yjbob]
Aug 14, 2007 (9:02 am)
"You can't buy this vehicle with your head-you have to feel it." This sentence says it all. John
#22900 of 23397 Re:Is Jeep Wrangler a Good car for Chicago? by monsterzero_jr [koolbreeze2]
Aug 14, 2007 (6:46 pm)
I agree with the feeling it. Everyone who rides in my JEEP complains. Noise, Rattle, Shack, Bounce. But I can't wait to jump in and drive it everyday. If you love it more than anything, who cares about if it's practical. My friend bought a 50 some odd inch Plasma TV. Is it practical? NO, but he rushes home everyday to play his XBOX on it....all night!! I LOVE MY JEEP!!
#22901 of 23397 Re: Just placed an order [britt22]
Aug 14, 2007 (6:55 pm)
I have been selling Fords and Jeeps for years and if you have the tenacity, you can get a better deal negotiating yourself than a friends and family deal. Its all a hoax yo make you feel warm and fuzzy inside or a way for people to avoid "negotiating" but you are getting a little screwed over. I feed off people who hate the negotiating. Spend 30 minutes to an hour more at the sales table, and you could save 2 to 5 thousand dollars more than Friends and Family.
#22902 of 23397 Re: differance from a cj7 and wrangler hard top [carlosarturohp]
Aug 14, 2007 (6:57 pm)
NO the Jeep hard top won't work. It goes on but leaks and whistles!
#22903 of 23397 Re: Just placed an order [ike21]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Aug 14, 2007 (8:29 pm)
Even better - after test driving and finding your ride, then find an internet savvy salesperson at a shop that has online inventory and just show up at the dealer to sign the papers. The good ones are figuring out that people want email responses to their quote requests and don't want to hassle with a phone call or a demand to come down to the sales floor to haggle in person for hours.
From talking to people at the home office last week, it sounds like the present rate is two responsive quotes for every five quote requests you do (via Edmunds or one of the other dealer quote services). The other three either never respond or you get a call wanting to know "what can we do to sell you a car today?" Those you ignore.
Check out the Smart Shopper and Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences boards for real experiences and this member blog post today was pretty funny - The 5 steps to finding the perfect Car Salesman.
#22904 of 23397 Re:Is Jeep Wrangler a Good car for Chicago? by monsterzero_jr [ike21]
Aug 15, 2007 (9:51 am)
Everyone who rides in my JEEP complains.
My wife drives an X3 and her only real criticism of my 1999 Sahara soft top is that it is a little noisy above 60 mph- but she still likes it. I put Bilstein HDs on it- the ride is far from smooth but very well controlled. We've taken it on 200-240 mile day trips with no complaints(well, my son does wish the radio had an auxilliary input...).