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#21868 of 23397 Re: Am I crazy and some MPG data also [jplyman]
Jul 21, 2006 (4:18 am)
I've had my Unlimited for a little more than 2 years now. I commute about 12 miles each way to work, and my general driving is about 50/50 city/freeway. I've been getting about 17mpg overall with "normal" driving (no more than 65 on the freeway, using cruise). If I specifically drive for economy (60 on the freeway, slow starts from stop lights, coasting down hills and off-ramps, anything to keep the revs below 2000), I can get 19. In an area like Atlanta, you might not be able to get away with some of my "tricks" without angering other drivers (I live in rural Michigan). As Mtngal mentioned, mileage really drops off after about 60 mph.
Regarding children, I have twin 2 1/2 year olds who enjoy riding in the Jeep. The extra room helps, and their booster seats fit just fine. It's a little awkward to crawl back there to buckle them in, but it's not a big issue as this is not our primary kid vehicle. They sit up high, and really like the view out the big windows. Common sense will tell you it's not as safe as your Audi (no side or curtain airbags, fabric or fiberglass top that offers little protection, not as stable as a car in emergency maneuvers), so I don't know as I'd recommend it as an everyday kid transporter.
How about replacing the Expedition with the Unlimited, and keep the Audi for economy/kid shuttle?
All that being said, any Wrangler is going to be pretty loud, ride stiffly, and get lousy mileage. I still love mine!
#21869 of 23397 Re: Am I crazy and some MPG data also [mcrrt]
Jul 21, 2006 (8:18 am)
Regarding getting rid of the Expedition - not an option we both like the ride and it is great for trips. That is my primary commuter also (60 Miles) my hope is that the Wranler Unlimited would be able to match the Expedition awesome milage of 16 MPG if I drive and 14 if my wife drives.
I'm a big guy 6'1 and just north of 250 (trying to go south of that) - we are looking at this as our second car to take on camping trips and to the lake. Also, we will have to fight over who gets to take it each day .
We have been debating about a Wrangler since 2000 - at that time we bought a GC and decided we didn't want two Jeeps - should have sold the GC LOL.
So I guess the bottom line is we are crazy - the Audi a great car but its to small for me - I like sitting up high and having some room.
Thank you all for your insight into the crazy world....
#21870 of 23397 Re: Am I crazy and some MPG data also [jplyman]
Jul 21, 2006 (9:09 am)
I have an 05 Unlimited, commute 60 miles a day also, about 52 of those are highway. When I have calculated the mileage, it is usually 17-18 mpg.
I think the access to the rear seat would be difficult with baby seats, you definitely need to try it out before buying.
I enjoy owning the vehicle, but only as a second car, not as the primary vehicle for kids. The upcoming 4 door version could be a big improvement...
#21871 of 23397 Re: Am I crazy and some MPG data also [jplyman]
Jul 21, 2006 (10:07 am)
Ditto on all of the previous feedback. I have had an unlimited for a year; mileage is rotten, its a pain to get the kids in and out, its not inherently as safe as most kid haulers...and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I have a 2yr old and a 5 yr old and they love the Jeep. My 2yr old son complains everytime we get in my wife's Volvo SUV and yells "Jeep!" every time we pass one on the road. Understand what you are getting into and do NOT buy one without installing the car seat(s) and climbing in and out of the back to buckle in the kids a few times. I would also highly recommend the Unlimited with the stability and extra crumple zone that comes with the 15 extra inches of overall length. Lastly, mine is armored up with aftermarket front and rear bumpers and rocker protection which I hope adds some protections in the event of an accident. Good luck!
#21872 of 23397 Re: Am I crazy and some MPG data also [wpowell]
Jul 21, 2006 (6:24 pm)
I must say, I put off buying a Jeep, which I always wanted, until my daughter was 7. But, crumple zone is not the worry. I don't believe there is a crumple zone. The rear bumper sits right on the frame rails. The frame is not going to crumple all the way into the back seat in a collision, unless the Jeep is behind an immovable object. So, don't let that determine whether you get an swb or an LJ. The real safety issue is that the roof is not fixed. So, if you believe your children shouldn't do anything without a super-duper padded helmet, then go buy a Volvo. If you are a safe driver, and watch what you're doing buy what you want. I drove both an LJ and an swb, and the swb was by far more fun to drive. It felt like a REAL Jeep (no offense LJ owners).
I remember being 8 years-old and riding on the back of my dad's Gold Wing, and I thought it was the best thing in the world. Thank God he wasn't a soccer mom deathly afraid for my safety. Those are some of my fondest memories...
#21873 of 23397 Re: Am I crazy and some MPG data also [steve_]
Jul 23, 2006 (7:25 am)
speaking of gas mileage...has DC scrapped any ideas of putting the Diesel in the new Wranglers? Seems to me that would help significantly. A guy I work with drives a diesel Jetta and get's crazy MPG..close to 50, and drives like a nut to boot. On the flip side, he's had tons of trouble with the vehicle and not much support from VW.
#21874 of 23397 Re: Am I crazy and some MPG data also [99tj]
Jul 24, 2006 (4:54 pm)
I read elsewhere that the diesel won't pass the stricter emissions standards and is also being dropped for the Liberty. Export Wranglers will get the diesel as an option. Maybe Mac or someone can confirm.
#21875 of 23397 Report on Excessive ?? Soft Top Flapping Noise [kginfjeep]
Jul 24, 2006 (8:50 pm)
As promised, here is my report on this problem, which I noticed above 50 mph.
The problem appears to be caused by the velcro built into the top that wraps around the 2 bow.
I find that less noise occurs if I just leave this velcro "flap" resting on top of the 2 bow. I may experiment with putting some cloth "shims" between the 2 bow and the top to see if this increased tension makes things even quieter.
But bottom line - the velcro - when stressed by the top flexing - made a crinkling noise that I found annoying.
Also, I confirmed that in my Jeep, changing the A/C between fresh and recirculate did not make a tangible difference in this problem, but I think that having it in fresh air may keep the side windows bowed out a bit, which seems to cut a little noise from there.
Thanks everyone for your suggestions and willingness to help!
#21876 of 23397 Re: Report on Excessive ?? Soft Top Flapping Noise [kginfjeep]
Jul 25, 2006 (8:37 am)
Thanks for posting the results. I think you'll want to put the velcro back in place before lowering the top so that everything folds up nicely. I wonder if the velcro noise would have stopped over time as it reached its "comfort zone"?? I don't have a similar noise but I don't recall if I had any of that early on.
Jul 26, 2006 (11:21 am)
Okay after the feed back and the fever which never goes away we are hoping to get a good deal on a 2006 Unlimited - our son is very excited - anybody have a dealer in the Metro Atlanta area that was either really good or really bad.
Thanks for all the info.