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#21631 of 23393 how is a Wrangler as an every day driver?
by minarets1
May 24, 2006 (12:00 pm)
well, i am no die-hard jeep guy, so i may have just scared half of you away but i am coming to the pros for some advise. i am and have always been a sports sedan kind of guy. id like a G35 sedan or a Saab Aero 9-5, but the 2003 9-5 i want is 20k. i have been told i could see a 2003-04 Wrangler for around $15,000? is that right?
also, i drive about 22k miles a year. how is the Jeep as a daily driver on the road?
thanks guys
#21632 of 23393 Re: how is a Wrangler as an every day driver? [minarets1]
by goducks1
May 24, 2006 (12:17 pm)
It's about the opposite side of the spectrum from a sports sedan. More of a cruiser around town in its street life, not something to corner fast in. Much looser steering and a higher center of gravity. Much louder. This is a minimalist's vehicle. I can't imagine cross-shopping an Infiniti or Saab with a Wrangler. And 22K miles/year is going to get expensive on gas compared to a sedan.
One of my best friends drives a Mini Cooper S, and we both admire each other's rides, but we'd never confuse them.
#21633 of 23393 Re: how is a Wrangler as an every day driver? [goducks1]
by erickpl
May 24, 2006 (12:44 pm)
Okay, as one who has driven sport sedans like the BMW 3 Series, I can address this.
The Jeep Wrangler is not about go-fast, get there first or get there in luxury kinda travelling. It is about the experience of getting there. Take a drive in a TJ with the top off, doors off, radio playing your favorite music, while enjoying the scenery while the wind messes up your hair. It truly is a Jeep thing.
Now as a daily driver, even my modded TJ does quite well. Granted, it is no highway cruiser (I have the 2.5L 4 cyl engine) but when needs be, I can do just fine on the highway.
My other rides make up for the lack of speed, and both would fall into the sport car/sedan category.
I have my Jeep for the simple days when I want the sun in my face, the cool wind in my air, and I don't really care when I get to my destination. If I'm in a hurry, have needs to be comfort (like for a real long drive), or want to present the professional side, I take my other car.
-Paul
#21634 of 23393 Re: how is a Wrangler as an every day driver? [minarets1]
by believe
May 24, 2006 (1:04 pm)
Price depends on model, mileage, condition etc.....
You can drive all the G35's....Saab's....and ALL others and you will NEVER have as much fun as you do in a Wrangler! I sold a 91 Wrangler and missed it from that day on....I swore I would never do that again. It took me some time to find the right one (color, mileage, condition etc).
By the way...I'm a die-hard Honda fan....but NOTHING takes the place of a Wrangler.
Sorry for getting soooo emotional!!!
May 24, 2006 (1:09 pm)
By the way...do any of you use synthetic for the tranny (hand shaker)....or rear end? I'm a die-hard synthetic oil fan and was considering changing everything on the "Bee" to synthetic.....if so....what brand?
Thanks in advance!!!!...Lew
#21636 of 23393 Re: how is a Wrangler as an every day driver? [minarets1]
by koolbreeze2
May 24, 2006 (1:19 pm)
I went from a Jeep Wrangler to a Town Car to a Cadillac to a Buick Park Ave. and then to a Sebring Conv. and back to the Wrangler. Its apples and oranges. The Wrangler is about fun and connecting with a vehicle in a special way. I believe this is true for men and women. Do your research if you plan on getting a Wrangler to be certain its for you. Better to rent one and talk to owners, then decide. Its a big jump from Sports-sedan to a Jeep. Kinda like riding a racehorse to work and then going home on a mule. You will get there, see alot, have fun, but it will be a different ride. Go Easy and Good Luck, John
#21637 of 23393 Re: Finally - new rear bumper installed [erickpl]
by wpowell
May 25, 2006 (8:11 am)
Paul,
How are the Trxus MT's on the street? I hear they are a little quieter than most MT's?? BTW, just did a search of the forum to find out what the backspacing was on the canyons and turned up this quote from one of your posts last year:
"I'm running 30x9.5 BFG AT's right now. With my Dana 35/30 combination, I won't be going any bigger than 32x11.5"
Funny how our finish line for these damn things keeps moving. I remember thinking "I'll just buy the Rubicon so I don't have to make any mods...".
Anyway, your Jeep looks great; the new tires make it look like its feet finally grew into its body
If you get a chance post a pic from the side so we can see those wheelwells filled up!
#21638 of 23393 Re: Finally - new rear bumper installed [wpowell]
by nolid5
May 25, 2006 (9:26 am)
Mark,
Paul has quite a few pics over in his CarSpace album.
I still think it's cool to see the transformation that "little" jeep has gone through.
Looks great Paul. Would love to see a pic next to Thelma Jane now.
Rich
#21639 of 23393 Re: Synthetic [believe]
by mac24
May 25, 2006 (9:43 am)
Seeing as no one else has picked this up you can have my two cents.
First, you'll do no damage to your Jeep using synthetic. At the far end of it's life you may see a little less wear. This may be important to you if you intend to keep it for over 200k miles. You may see a small improvement in fuel consumption. You may run a little cooler. If you already have a high mileage you may get a few oil leaks as hardened oil seals are softened. You can extend your engine oil change intervals, though the amount of particulates circulating won't be reduced. If you tow the DC recommends you use synthetic or semi synthetic in the axles.
Finally, I use non-synthetic in the engine and transmission, and synthetic or semi-synthetic in the axles, brakes, and power steering. You may decide differently and I wouldn't argue with you.
#21640 of 23393 Re: Finally - new rear bumper installed [wpowell]
by erickpl
May 25, 2006 (10:55 am)
The TrXuS MT's are really nice on the street. Yeah, they have some noise, but not bad at all considering they are 12.5" wide and are mud terrains.
Initially, i wasn't going to go with a BL/MML and 33's, but after a wheeling trip in October, my wife said the Jeep needed to be bigger and needed better traction. She mistook a wheel not spinning in the dirt as no power, but it was a case when lockers would have helped. So, I went with an ARB air locker in the back and a Lockright autolocker in the front. I don't get stuck like I used to - just more damage to get.
hehehe
You can check my carspace account for pictures, but if you have any specifically you want, let me know and I'll try to get em.
As far as being next to Thelma Jane, mine is taller now. Tom's lift is a 2" Procomp lift and he's on 31's. My total lift is about 4.5 (3.25" suspension and 1.25" body) and I'm on 33's. However, Tom is still the much better driver and goes places I'm still too timid to try!
It is probably more about the driver and skill level than it is with the capabilities of the equipment.
-Paul