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#2155 of 23397 Need Help For New Jeep For My Son
Apr 23, 2001 (2:41 pm)
We are buying a new (1999 Wrangler Sport with 10k miles on it) for our son for graduation. I would like to move up to a larger tire/wheel combo. Use will be mostly highway and lite off roading (no rocks) and we live where snow never happens. What is the max size tire/wheel combo I could go to without getting into the lift business??? Brand recommendations on tires....offset/brand recommendations on wheels? Thanks in advance!
#2156 of 23397 look new edition
Apr 23, 2001 (3:34 pm)
anyone seen the Extreme 60th anniversary edition..
OK...How Am I supposed to make up my mind when they keep on teasing me with new toys??
Sorry I havent posted in awhile..
Its geeting warmer...Yard work to do!...
take care guys...
#2157 of 23397 60th Anniversary Edition
Apr 23, 2001 (4:47 pm)
Saharanut: I've seen the 60th Anniversary Edition. It comes in Silverstone Metallic or Black. I would have bought it in silver but it is only available with full doors and I wanted the half doors with soft windows. It's a great looking Jeep! There aren't too many around so if you want one get it soon.
#2158 of 23397 goducks1
Apr 23, 2001 (5:20 pm)
Feel free to disagree with old tsjay any time, my friend.
I was combining my buying experience and old Tonkadave's. My dealer told me that DC includes an advertising fee within the invoice that covers national, regional, and local advertising costs. I never actually SAW Thelma Jane's invoice, but it supposedly included a line item for this advertsing cost. In my case, goducks, the Edmunds total didn't jive with the invoice, and, apparently, the difference was that ad fee, which Edmunds says they do not include in their invoice cost.
Tonkadave had to pay the extra ad fee for his area (Philadelphia) over and above the invoice cost.
Maybe things changed between the time you bought your Jeep and the time that I bought Thelma?
I don't know, goducks, it IS confusing! I thought that I finally had it figured out, but maybe not.
All I know for sure is that I got my Thelma Jane and I couldn't be happier!
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Apr 23, 2001 (6:34 pm)
Ive seen the 60th for awhile now..
today on TV i've seen commercials for a EXTEME edition of it.. It has the black tubular brush guards on the front
Apr 23, 2001 (7:18 pm)
You didnt mention weather the jeep had 15x7 or 15x8 rims. Either way, you wont have any trouble with putting 31x10.5 tires on without a lift. You might have to throw in a couple washers on your steering bumstops to prevent rubbing on full turns, but you might not. Your stock rims are more than likely 5.5 inch backspacing. Most aftermarket rims are 4.5 inches or less. That should be fine for those tires. You can shoot for a backspacing of half the rims width in inches. That works most of the time. If you put in an easy to install and inexpensive 2 inch spring spacer lift ($200.00) you would be able to move up to a 32x11.5 tire. I have seen stock TJs with 32s and 33s before. Its probably fine for the street, but im sure if they went off road they would rip their fender flares right off! I recommend The BFG All Terrain KO's for your jeep, if you do mostly Street driving. I have had them on most of my past vehicles and my current 2 trucks and never had any trouble.
Apr 23, 2001 (7:46 pm)
I researched the ad fees quite a bit while I was looking. I called several different groups at Chrysler to get some info on it. Chrysler says its a legitimate fee that every dealer has to pay. Some dealers choose to eat some or all of the costs. In some cases there is a regional ad fee like in my area. In Metro areas the cost of radio, TV and newspaper advertising is high,exceeding the Chrysler national amount. So they pass a zone ad fee on to the customer as well. I had to pay it. I went to every dealer in Southeastern Pa., Southern NJ and Northern Delaware. I even called Maryland. They all had the fee and would not eat it on an over invoice or invoice deal. As I said before, I walked out of several dealers over refusing to pay it and they just let me walk right on out. I guess in some areas they dont have the regional fee and only have the national fee. Its up to the dealer whether or not to eat it, or pass it on. By the way, it doesnt show up on the sticker price or the pricing guides. It is on the invoice though.
Apr 23, 2001 (8:32 pm)
I agree with Tonkadave on the BFG AT KO's. I have the 33x12.50's on mine and I really like them. As for wheels, I have the Centerline Hellcats on mine (15x10). You could go with the same wheel in a 15x8 with the 31x10.50 tires and have a great looking Jeep!! IMHO, the Hellcats are one of the best looking wheels on a TJ. You can see pics of mine at http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1426591&a=10683235
I have the Skyjacker 4" suspension lift too....
#2163 of 23397 Thanks Sas... and Mom's Tires
Apr 23, 2001 (11:28 pm)
:o) Thanks for the welcome Sas... even belated ones are nice.
Dad just bought new tires for Mom's 98 Wrangler (her first new set at about 45K). I don't know the size in inches (although we didn't raise or widen anything); they are All Terrain Wildcat LT's. Bigger than factory stock by at least an inch or two... wide meaty tread (which is good because she has a tendency to eat Honda's... **winks** Sas). Mom loves them and they do look pretty aggressive, though she admitted she feels slightly tippy/bouncy now. I am still on my factory Goodyears 40Kish.
Oh... and to the fuel economy discussion... my 99 4.0L I6 GCL with the tow package (I have no clue about gear ratios!) gets 17.8 during the summer, and 17.4 during the winter when I lug that gravel in the back end. (And yes, I get more miles for the buck when I use cruise control at about 63... but that is too darn slow!) My Dealer tells me my better than average fuel economy is due to my use of synthetic oil. Have no idea if that would help with Wrangler's too... and synthetic oil is about twice as much as the regular stuff.
Carry on... interesting the things I learn here as relates to my "day job." :o) You Gentlemen will make a grease monkey out of me yet.
Apr 24, 2001 (1:24 am)
With SelectTrac full-time 4WD in the 4WD Full-time mode, the power is split 50/50 between front and rear axles. It's only QuadraDrive that is a reactive system (read: RWD until slippage occurs).
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