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#20610 of 23397 4WD Binding. Transfer Case Issue??
Dec 28, 2005 (10:19 pm)
I bought a 2003 Wrangler with a 4" lift and 33" tires. Put in 4:56 gearing in the front and rear due to bigger tires in July. Followed break-in instructions.
Put Jeep in 4WD for the first time since I've owned it today and could only go about 12-18" before it seemed like my breaks were on and had a hard time moving in forward or reverse. Putting it in 4H or 4L is not a problem, I just can't seem to move without putting a stress on the vehicle...almost like it's binding up on me somewhere, somehow. Any ideas?
#20611 of 23397 Re: Speaker Replacement - 6.5's in Pods [wpowell]
Dec 28, 2005 (10:54 pm)
I am in the process of researching options for replacing or upgrading the factory console sub in my 2002 TJ. You mention you are possibly doing the same. I haven't found ANY info on someone actually doing it. If you have some details or photos of what you have done or your thoughts on what you plan to do I would love to hear them.
I don't want to have anything exposed that doesn't have to be in the Jeep (weather/security reasons) so keeping things close to stock is my prefrence. The best options I have found are the Kicker SSMB6 (Mid Bass 6.5) or the JL 6W0 (6.5 Sub). The SSMB6 will probably fit in the factory insert but isn't a true sub. The 6W0 is a real sub (although small) but it probably won't fit in the factory insert (3.5in depth and the much larger magnet). It would require some mounting or custom work.
What are your plans or thoughts? Have you seen or heard of anyone else actually doing something with the factory piece ? I can't believe someone else hasn't yet.
email me if you have info (remove the xxxs of course)... xxxchrisbullochxxxxxxhotmailxxx.com
#20612 of 23397 Re: Speaker Replacement - 6.5's in Pods [cbulloch]
Dec 29, 2005 (7:04 am)
I haven't gotten any further with my sub plans since the post you referenced, but my current thinking is as follows. I plan to pull out the factory console and build an MDF insert that will hopefully hold an 8" sub vs. the factory 6". (edit: I will reinstall the factory console with the insert inside) I then plan to mount an amp under the seat (preferably driver's side). Once I get the console out if I see that I can't shoehorn an 8" sub in there I am going to seriously think about pulling the back seat out and building an MDF enclosure into the bottom center of the seat to hold a down firing 8". I could then mount an amp in the original console sub location. I think with the right box design (i.e shallow and angled, not rectangular) the rear seat would still be comfortable on each side, but firm in the center only. Good luck and keep us posted.
#20613 of 23397 I've seen plans for subs
Dec 29, 2005 (7:28 am)
that actually mount them IN the rear seat. So it has been done and quite successfully. I think the plan actually had room for 2 8" subs.
My sub is in my Tuffy console (lined with Dynamat) and sounds pretty good.
#20614 of 23397 A day at the beach
Dec 29, 2005 (7:31 am)
Took the family to the beach in the Jeep this week. What a great time! It was sunny and about 65 degrees and there was almost no one on the beach except us. This was the first time my wife or kids had driven on the beach. Photos:
#20615 of 23397 Re: Speaker Replacement - 6.5's in Pods [wpowell]
Dec 29, 2005 (10:19 am)
Sounds like our plans are pretty similar. I have been considering the 8 in a MDF mount as well. I have the whole thing apart right now but I don't have a speaker to test fit. It will probably be a tight fit but possible. The main obstabcle is the bottom of the console tray that is accessible from the top. Depending on the speaker and mount configuration it may work. The other consideration is the emergency break.
I probably won't undertake anything for a couple months because I am doing the HU and four speakers at the moment. I will post some details when I get around to working on it.
As for the rear seat box there is one guy who has a couple different designs and has a great sliding under the driver seat amp mount as well. Really great stuff unlike anything I had seen before. http://www.sirgcal.com/jeep/
#20616 of 23397 Re: 4WD Binding. Transfer Case Issue?? [timmay1]
Dec 29, 2005 (10:56 am)
It's normal for that to happen if you engage 4WD on a high traction surface............... but not in 12-18"!
The usual cause for binding is one propshaft trying to rotate at a different speed to the other, rather than any problem with the transfer case.
I have to ask, is it possible that one of your axles didn't get its gearing changed, or it got the wrong ratio? That would give exactly the problem you've got, and most vehicles problems are related to the last item that was worked on.
#20617 of 23397 Re: 4WD Binding. Transfer Case Issue?? [mac24]
Dec 29, 2005 (11:13 am)
Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure if they were both change but I did ask for both to be done. I called the shop I got my gearing done and they said to try it on a very loose surface, not my driveway or a hard dirt surface. I trust they changed both front and rear, like the service slip says but I'm not sure without cracking it open. Any suggestions?
#20618 of 23397 Re: 4WD Binding. Transfer Case Issue?? [timmay1]
Dec 29, 2005 (12:25 pm)
Actually, cracking them open would be a good idea for a couple of reasons. First, you can check for sure that the ratios are correct, and second, it's a good idea to change the oil as soon as they're broken in. It's an easy job and the oil and sealant is cheap.
#20619 of 23397 Re: 4WD Binding. Transfer Case Issue?? [timmay1]
Dec 29, 2005 (12:29 pm)
O.K., this is what I did:
Lifted rear end off the ground. I marked each tire at bottom center, then I marked the drive shaft right at the axle housing, then I marked the axle housing even with my mark on the drive shaft (that way I could see my reference point against my mark on the shaft as I spun the tires). I put a marker on the ground directly under each mark on the tires, spun the tires one revolution only, then did the same on the front end too. This is what I got:
Rearend: 4.5 revolutions
Frontend: 3.75 revolutions
Wrong gears? I suspect so. Any inputs?