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#20014 of 23397 Travel trailer towing
Oct 17, 2005 (6:36 am)
My wife has wanted a Jeep for the past several years and finally got one in the spring of 2004, after retiring. We both love it, but haven't gotten to the point of hugging it every day. We purchased a 4L, six cylinder, 2004 Sport with an automatic transmission. We also have a 16 foot fiberglass Scamp travel trailer that weighs 1500 lbs. dry. The Scamp has electric brakes. We have traveled extensively with the trailer, but pull it with a Ford F150 pick-up. We never imagined that we could pull our little Scamp with the Jeep until we saw some people in Colorado pulling a heavier travel trailer with their Jeep. Realizing the 2000 lb. maximum rule for Jeep Wrangler's, I would like some information on towing my trailer.
1. Would the Jeep have enough power to negotiate mountain roads? Being old and retired, we are never in a hurry (don't you just love those drivers) so slow is ok.
2. I know I would need a class 3 hitch and a tranny cooler with filter kit, but is there anything else I would need?
3. Are we crazy for even exploring this possibility?
Any information anyone might have on this topic would be greatly appreciate.
#20015 of 23397 Re: Travel trailer towing [scamper]
Oct 17, 2005 (9:38 am)
Your Jeep is more than capable of both pulling and stopping your trailer. The 2000lb restriction is due to the relatively short wheelbase which would allow it to become unstable more easily when being pushed by a heavier trailer, as in descending a steep hill or snaking on the flat.
So, 1: Yes, plenty of power, just use reasonable caution when coming down those mountains in the rain. Remember also that in high winds the large surface area of the trailer will have a disproportionate effect on your Jeep, so keep it slow.
2: The tranny cooler and filter are very important, and the filter adapter will allow you to easily fit a transmission temperature gauge. Be sure to fit it on the flow line to the cooler rather than the return. Also, fit the aftermarket cooler after the factory one. Additionally, you should use synthetic or semi-synthetic oil in the diffs, as recommended by Jeep.
3: No, just don't forget have a trailer behind you, and pull over from time to time let the line of traffic behind you go past.
#20016 of 23397 Re: Radio Swap-out? [mtngal]
Oct 17, 2005 (12:52 pm)
the actual connectors between the radio and the wiring harness are different between a 1998 and a 2004. mopar does make an adapter, so this shouldn't be an issue. really the only other part you will need is the center bezel itself, which you can get cheap on ebay (it attaches the same way as pre-03 bezels). otherwise, all screw holes are the same. good luck!!
#20017 of 23397 Radios and mileage
Oct 18, 2005 (11:33 am)
This morning my other half filled up the Sport and figured we got well over 21 mpg on the last tank. However, don't take this one too seriously - we drove from the house (about 6,000 feet) to work (sea level), then up to 4,000 feet (Lebec) where we found a landslide had blocked the one road into our area. After spending an hour eating dinner we gave up and drove back "down the hill" to spend the night at friends (about 1500 feet) and then on to work (sea level - total distance 226 miles), for significantly more downhill driving than uphill driving. Sure wish I could count on that figure all the time!
This confirms what we had always thought, the Sport does get about 2 mpg more than the Unlimited.
Now we're thinking about adding the sport bar and a new radio - it isn't all that much to add a third unit to our XM account, and my other half hates having wires that have to detached and re-attached all the time. He knows I'm not about to give up listening to the Roady at the office. And if we don't get a top of the line head unit, I think we could do it for about what we spent on the Unlimited's Alpine head that had the XM tuner built in. Does anyone have any thoughts about where to mount an XM tuner, now that the new ones seem to be much smaller than the old ones? I was thinking that there might be room behind the dash, rather than mounting one under the seat (the Sport has been known to leak but not recently).
Oct 18, 2005 (11:49 am)
When I did the XM stuff for my Wrangler back in January, I mounted the antenna box on the sidewall right next to the passenger feet area. The Alpine connecter (This was a universal one from XM) I stuck above the glove box to the bottom of the airbag box/holder. That then ran to the Alpine HU.
Why don't you just get another integrated XM Alpine tuner?
#20019 of 23397 Travel trailer towing (Scamper)
Oct 18, 2005 (2:38 pm)
Thanks Mac for the most useful information. I will ready my Jeep this winter for a long trip to Alaska in June. I will try to find a good mechanic in Phoenix to follow your detailed instructions.
#20020 of 23397 Re: XM [erickpl]
Oct 19, 2005 (5:43 am)
I agree. If you're going to get a new head unit, get one like the Alpine with the XM tuner already in it.
#20021 of 23397 Re: XM [keats]
Oct 19, 2005 (11:22 am)
The main reason why I'm thinking of not going that way is that it's more expensive, and since I'm looking at a new water heater (for the house), dental work on the tooth I broke yesterday and roof repairs (we have big leak), my available finances aren't very large. Besides, we're talking about a 7 year old vehicle and I'd hate to put a bunch of money into it, only to sell it in a year. Not that I'm planning on selling it any time soon...
Oct 19, 2005 (12:45 pm)
Hey Keats. My top is still off and I am enjoying some nice weather after all that miserable rain. I got the end caps and put them on. Nice look and much better for off road. Nothing gets hung up in them. Thanks for the tip. How's life? Go Easy, KB2
#20023 of 23397 2005 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon leak update
Oct 19, 2005 (1:12 pm)
Well...thinking my leak after 5 inches of rain, was coming through the vent on the cowl, turned out to be wrong. The service dept determined the leak was from a faulty gasket under the folding windshield from the factory. Of course the dealer did not have this in stock and another 70 mile return trip is in the cards. Oh well...only more expensive gas and time. Anyone else ever experienced this?