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Jeep Wrangler, SUV
Sep 11, 2005 (11:32 am)
Okay I stand corrected Mac. I was busy typing while you were making your post.
I checked the build sheet for my current 2001, and it specifies that it was built with SDUP, Suspension, - Heavy Duty w/ Gas Shocks. I also checked the window sticker and at least at this particular time, the 30" tire and wheel group came with the high pressure shocks. Standard items for Sahara list "Shock Absorbers - Gas Charged" but I don't know if those are the same. Anyway, time to stop beating a dead horse. I don't know what my 97 wrangler had other than the Tire and Wheel package.
There is no doubt that the GSAs have shallow tread on the outside, but there is no doubt that both my Jeeps also cupped the tread in that same area. Maybe it does have something to do with toe or camber?
#19614 of 23397 Re: kbon [jacknimble]
Sep 11, 2005 (12:04 pm)
Maybe it does have something to do with toe or camber?
Maybe, but it could be to do with the rotation interval and pattern. Were you following DC's recommended pattern of switching the rears straight to the front, then the fronts diagonally moved to the rear?
I rotate my tires every 3k (when I change the oil etc.), and when I had GSAs I would always get a little noise and vibration afterwards as they wore in to their new positions. I never noticed any cupping for the life of the tires, but it could be that it was present in a very minor way but was 'cleaned up' at every rotation.
#19615 of 23397 Re: kbon [mac24]
Sep 11, 2005 (12:25 pm)
I had GSAs on my 96 Grand Cherokee 4X4 and never had any wear issues. The only difference between those tires and the current ones are that those on the GC were P245/70-15 vs. the LT 30.00 X 9.5 - 15. The GC carried a higher recommended tire pressure. They are essentially the same size tire. I rotated the tires on the GC the same as I have on the Wrangler.
This has me even more confused.
#19616 of 23397 Re: Clinometer [embeeduece]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Sep 11, 2005 (12:44 pm)
It would be sort of fun to see a clinometer pegged on both scales in Tom's BP Gulch.
Sep 11, 2005 (1:11 pm)
Well, a Dodge dealer always did the rotation, and I also had them throw in the spare as well. I would be willing to bet they did not do the diagonals, because so many are old school and still just do front to rear, although I guess throwing in the spare could get some diagonals in there. As far as interval, it was done every other oil change, so it was about 6k or so intervals. Probably not good enough, huh?
#19618 of 23397 Oh great! Now I've done it!
Sep 11, 2005 (1:29 pm)
After having the doors off for a few months, I decided to put them back onto my Wrangler this afternoon. Everything went well, until I put the nuts back onto the door hinges. When I tightened them, I gave one of them a few turns too many. Now it seems that the treads are stripped. I tried unscrewing it and it just turned and turned without getting unscrewed.
Is there anything I can do about this? This apparently is not an emergency situation, as I don't intend to take the doors off until next summer. But I sure would like to be able to have them off again next year.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
#19619 of 23397 Re: kbon [jacknimble]
Sep 11, 2005 (2:07 pm)
I would be willing to bet they did not do the diagonals............
That's why I always do it myself!
If you want to include the spare in the mix always switch it with the same tire (I use the right rear), after the others have been rotated.
#19620 of 23397 Re: Oh great! Now I've done it! [slices17]
Sep 11, 2005 (2:28 pm)
The easiest way is to break the nut. Mask up the paintwork for at least 18" around the hinge. Then using a Dremel tool or similar, cut or grind through one of the flats on the nut until you just get to the thread on the hinge pin. Rotate the nut 180º and repeat, at which point the nut will fall in two pieces. Now you'll be able to tell if it was the thread on the nut or the hinge pin that stripped.
#19621 of 23397 Re: Oh great! Now I've done it! [mac24]
Sep 11, 2005 (4:47 pm)
Once you get the nut off, don't even bother getting another one. Just leave it off and take the others off as well. The only way those doors would come off is if your Jeep was upside down, and then you would have more to worry about than just the doors.
Some people even cut the threaded portion of the hinge bolt off, so that there is nothing protruding below the hinge. I didn't go that far.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
#19622 of 23397 Re: Oh great! Now I've done it! [tsjay]
Sep 11, 2005 (5:19 pm)
If ease of door removal was the sole consideration then I'd agree. Unfortunately however, Wrangler doors of both types are a valuable commodity on the black market.
Obviously a lot depends on where you park, and having the doors properly secured will only slow a thief down to a limited extent, but when you consider the cost of replacements then every little helps.
Sorry Tom, but I'm feeling cynical today!