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#18361 of 23397 Anyone Experience THIS? 2002 Wrangler
Jun 24, 2005 (5:37 pm)
Thanks to the Hosts for directing me here. I'm new to this board. It was recommended to me. I'm having a problem w/my Wrangler and thought I'd try to find out if anyone has experienced the same thing.
Here's the issue. My 2002 Wrangler engine light is on. My mechanic determined the EVAP codes and suggested taking it to a dealer for service. The service called today and told me I had a leak in the seal around the top of the gas tank, it would have to be dropped and resealed, and the retention pump was leaking - that had to be replaced and carbon had built up so I'd have to have fuel injection cleaned, etc. All of which is not under warranty, all of which is due to normal "wear and tear" and "maintenance" - upwards of $1000 in repairs.
I was pretty annoyed - the car is three years old. My '90 Jeep - now 15 years old, has never had a problem of this nature. I called Chrysler, they said, after an hour conversation - there was nothing they could do. It's maintenance.
I plan to write to Chrysler and anyone else I can think of. Anyone else experience this? Advice welcome.
#18362 of 23397 Re: Anyone Experience THIS? 2002 Wrangler [jeepster8]
Jun 24, 2005 (6:02 pm)
Welcome. Sorry you came here under the circumstances that brought you, but you are welcome none the less.
We're gonna need good old Mac here, but I'll toss out my two cents worth. If Mac contradicts anything I say, go with what he says. He is our technical guru.
I'm not sure how the dealer determined exactly where you leak is, but it sounds to me like they just picked the most expensive repairs they could think of.
This could be as simple as a crack in a vacuum hose, or a vacuum hose that has partially slipped off the nipple on one of the rollover valves on top of the tank. How they can tie this problem in with fuel injectors needing cleaning is a mystery to me, but maybe Mac will make the connection for us.
Since this is not warranty work anyway, I would let that local mechanic drop your tank and see if he can find the leak. No way should he charge you anything close to $1000 like the dealer wants.
Let's see what Mac has to say.
Keep us posted, and good luck.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
#18363 of 23397 Greetings from hot, smoky Vegas
Jun 24, 2005 (8:03 pm)
There are fires burning all around Vegas and the smoke is all blowing into the valley. Brings back memories of the brush fires that happen most years in SoCal - not Vegas! I'm here with my Noble Black Steed - a '98 Sport and am not thinking too kindly about him at the moment - the air conditioning isn't working again! Last summer we replaced the air compressor and it seemed to work in the fall, but it sure isn't working now. I'm regretting my act of kindness (letting my husband use the Unlimited this weekend) because the Sport is a hard top and I don't even have the option of putting the top down or even taking out the windows. And to add insult to injury - my window roll bag arrived Thursday and I can't even try it out this weekend! 103 degrees and no good way to cool off - URRR!
#18364 of 23397 never thought of that
Jun 25, 2005 (5:51 am)
I've had the top off for several days in a row now (rare in NY) and thought i was being smart enough to not leave anything of value in the jeep as it sat open. but i got in yesterday afternoon to find my inspection sticker gone! i dont think it came off while driving as it was on there tight, not even a loose corner or anything, and now it is gone completely with no trace. i can only guess that someone who needed to get their vehicle inspected thought it would be easier to take my sticker?? i have to admit, i never considered that i should remove all my stickers when i park. what was i thinking?
#18365 of 23397 Re: never thought of that [mohara]
Jun 25, 2005 (6:44 am)
An interesting situation - guess it pays to live in a state without inspections. Probably the person had a car that they knew wouldn't pass the New York inspection, and your topless Wrangler was just sitting there, so handy! Isn't there some way to report the theft and get another one?
Texas had inspection stickers on the windshield - I remember having to replace my windshield a couple of days before we were moving out of state. I kept the receipt for it in my glovebox, and hoped it would cover me if I got stopped. I really didn't want to have to get the car re-inspected when I was leaving so soon!
#18366 of 23397 Re: Anyone Experience THIS? 2002 Wrangler [jeepster8]
Jun 25, 2005 (8:07 am)
Do remember that the primary function of a dealership is to make money. If you always keep that in mind when you interact with them in any way, you'll find it less upsetting and take it less personally when they try to make some from you.
So, while it could be the fuel pump to tank seal that the retaining ring clamps down, it could also be a cracked hose or something similar, even a loose gas cap.
There's no relationship between the evap codes and the correct function of the injectors. You would have noticed definite reduction in engine performance and mpg if the injectors were performing so badly that they needed cleaning.
The only exception to the above might be if you had an exceptionally high mileage on your Wrangler.
#18367 of 23397 Re: Anyone Experience THIS? 2002 Wrangler [mac24]
Jun 25, 2005 (11:27 am)
Jeepster, did you try just disconnecting the battery for a few minutes to clear the code? Sometimes a loose gas cap causes the code, but then the code doesn't clear. This happened recently with out Grand Cherokee. Code stayed on for a week. Finally before taking it to the dealer, I disconnected the battery for about ten minutes, reconnected and the light didn't come back on. Worth a try...I can't imagine you'd be having those sorts of problems with a 3 or 4 year old Wrangler...
Jun 25, 2005 (4:20 pm)
I have a 94 jeep wrangler sahara and i have made a few modifacations such as 2 in lift 31 tires a cold air intake and i want to put a exhaust on it to make it sound a little better and i was wondering if anyone could help me decide what kind of exhaust to go with
Jun 25, 2005 (4:35 pm)
Well, it's time to get the hoist. Sometimes I want to take the top off by myself, and the hoist seems to be the way to go. I've seen the name IMC (sorry if that's wrong) mentioned. Quadratec seems to carry a version as well. Does anyone have a recommendation? It would have to handle the LJ size hard top...
#18370 of 23397 Re: never thought of that [mtngal]
Jun 25, 2005 (7:28 pm)
I've had my California registration sticker taken off my licence plate (not on the jeep, btw). While I was parked, I got TWO tickets and no sympathy from the local constabulatory. Ridiculous.