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#16978 of 23397 Re: Opinion - 1999 Jeep Wrangler Sahara Package [utahjeep]
Apr 29, 2005 (8:38 am)
".....aftermarket (?) transmission cooler. 49K miles, recently replaced rebuilt tranny...."
Important point to check here. When an auto dies it usually dumps a load of crud into it's cooler located in the bottom of the radiator, usually necessitating the replacement of the radiator. Check to see if the aftermarket cooler has been plumbed in addition to the OE one at the bottom of the radiator, and not in place of it. Also check to see if the radiator is new. The cooler section can be cleaned, but it's not often successful.
An aftermarket cooler is a great addition to the original, but is nowhere near as efficient as the original one.
#16979 of 23397 Re: Opinion - 1999 Jeep Wrangler Sahara Package [mac24]
Apr 29, 2005 (8:45 am)
Thanks for that information.
The seller stated that there was a complete radiator flush performed at the same time as when the cooler was installed. It was installed after the original transmission went out. The dealer put in a rebuilt transmission at about 44K miles.
I will ask about the plumbing arrangement and will check the radiator condition. That was good info. Thanks again!
#16980 of 23397 I'm gettin' a Jeep! Ordered a 2005 Unlimited - Can't Wait!
Apr 29, 2005 (9:12 am)
Hi Gang - Ordered my Jeep yesterday. Made a couple posts on the pricing forum to check on "PPA" and "DAA" charges which seemed a bit steep to me and gave me a brief moment of buyer's regret last night (not for buying the Jeep but for maybe being too eager and agreeing to what I started to think was extra price padding I hadn't accounted for in my research). However, after checking a couple local dealers via email quotes this morning, I found both the other dealers appear to be charging for the same "PPA" (dealer code=L24) and "DAA" (dealer code=E24) charges. In fact, my dealer ended up being a few hundred dollars less than the lowest quote from the other two.
For those researching numbers to buy a Wrangler Unlimited, here are my details in hopes it helps...No haggle-prices using my company's Affiliate Rewards connection (aka Friends/Family/Partners - or FFP) which touts 1% under invoice.
My dealer is in SE Michigan.
Prices below are from the two columns in a printout from my dealer listed as "MSRP" and "FWP" (supposedly invoice)...
Wrangler Unlimited White/Khaki 23,895 / 21,877
Automatic 825 / 726
Security Group 295 / 260
Locking Fuel Cap 15 / 13
Front Floor Mats 30 / 26
Dual Top 1,435 / 1,263
Bodyside Steps 150 / 132
8 gallons gas 0 / 15
Customer Loyalty Mailing 0 / 25
Detroit Metro - PPA/EB-PF 0 / 280
Detroit Metro - DAA 0 / 240
Total 27,305 / 25,517
FFP Price = $25,262 (1% under the FWP "invoice" price above)
6% Sales Tax = $1,515.72 (Michigan law requires paying tax on before rebate price)
Total Delivered Price = $26,800
Minus $500 former military
Minus $750 (assuming it's still there when the Wrangler is delivered)
Minus $1,000 Chrysler Finance (again, assuming they still offer that at deliverly)
Out the door price = $24,550
Minimum Chrysler Finance amount needed to get the $1,000 rebate is $2,000 for at least six months.
My concern about my price last night was because those gas, customer mailing, PPA, and DAA costs were not figured in the Affiliate Rewards price provided directly from the Jeep website. Their price was 24,722 before rebates, taxes, and fees. My dealers price was $540 over that amount due to those other charges. That's why my antenna went up even though my dealer insisted they have to recoup those charges on "invoice" deals like this. So you know, Jeep website shows the Preferred Discount due to the Affiliate Rewards at $2,583 off the sticker price before rebates.
Now, can I stand the three week wait???? I'm very excited to join the Jeep family...finally, after waiting almost 20 years!!
#16981 of 23397 Chrysler Financial Bonus
Apr 29, 2005 (2:18 pm)
Whatever salesman is telling anybody there is a minimum time to finance to get the $1000 bonus doesn't have a clue.
The minimun time to finance is roughly 3 weeks, or as long as it takes to assign an account number. That is the official rule.
What is taking place is that since nobody has researched the rules, nobody knows. Since they don't know, they make something up that sounds good.
#16982 of 23397 Re: I'm gettin' a Jeep! Ordered a 2005 Unlimited - Can't Wait! [jimlw2]
Apr 29, 2005 (6:06 pm)
SUPER! I'm happy for ya, Dude!
BTW, how can you order a Jeep and get it delivered in three weeks? I got Thelma Jane in three weeks and two days, but I thought that was supposed to be very unusual. Factory must be caught up with orders, like they were when I ordered Thelma Jane.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Apr 29, 2005 (8:04 pm)
Welcome to all the new Wrangler owners! I can't believe how many new owners are here!
I have an electric lime green 04 Unlimited with black soft top. It isn't a real lime green - more of a true green, very bright. It is similar to the green the national forest uses, though brighter. I still really like it, and it certainly is distinctive!
As far as cost goes - all these people are going really well - probably better than I did in September. Mine was $24,500 out the door, before rebates of $1500 (ended up being $2000 because they gave me credit for a $500 coupon for attending Camp Jeep I received a couple of days after I bought it).
I also have a black hard top 98 Sport that looks two-toned - the flares are quite grey now.
Apr 30, 2005 (2:14 am)
Congrats on the new Jeep your gonna luv it.
I paid $25,800 out the door for my 05 rubi unlimited soft top. Pretty good deal i thought but if i waited just 2 months coulda picked it up even cheaper as the incentives had increased, but ya never know what the incentives will be unless ya got inside knowledge. I luv the jeep wave its like having an extended family, lol. In the short time ive been a wrangler owner i have had many people wanting to see the rubi unlimited and many others express their desire to own another or their first wrangler. It seems that somewhere deep inside lots of people want a wrangler just not everyone takes the jump to ownership.......
#16985 of 23397 Re: 2005 Wrangler Owners. [jefferson1964]
Apr 30, 2005 (1:06 pm)
Yep, you're not alone, many 05's and very late 04's Rubicons have been hit with this recall. I have not received one on my '04 so far, but there is a thread several pages long on the Rubicon forum I frequent...
#16986 of 23397 Re: 2005 Wrangler Owners. [jefferson1964]
Apr 30, 2005 (1:24 pm)
I haven't received a recall letter by mail yet, but checked on jeep.com in the owners -recall section and it says a recall was issued 3-21-05 for the oil pump drive gear on my 2005. It states that the gear may wear out prematurely. I've got an appointment monday to drop off my unlimited at the dealer. I took the cover off the camshaft position sensor/oil pump drive shaft assembly and I found that it has about .030 of backlash in the gear and about .075 end play on the shaft if I lift up on it. The .030 backlash is probably a little much but the .075 end play seems to me to be way to much to me anyway. The notification states that it's about an hour fix unless the gear on the cam is damaged, then it turns into an all day job. I'll let ya know what they fixed when they get' er done..
Apr 30, 2005 (2:46 pm)
Does anyone else feel that they may have the worst luck when it comes to their vehicle?
It seems as though my Jeep waits until I'm broke before it breaks, no matter how much money I spend dressing it up. This morning the oil pump went out on me and I dont exactly have the money to replace it.
Anyways, the question I was gonna ask is should I get the standard factory replacement, or the high flow replacement? Or does it really even matter?
I love my Jeep, but its getting to that point where I'm tired of fixing it.