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#15982 of 23397 More Unlimited Questions..
Mar 03, 2005 (1:28 pm)
... I apologize if some of these questions are common knowledge; I'm going to test drive one this Monday or Wed., but I figure the more I can find out beforehand, the better. This forum has been very helpful so far. Otherwise I can always ask the salesman.
- The jeep.com website is very decieving. It shows all Unlimited Wranglers with a BLACK hard top and/or soft top. I thought in 2004 they switched all tops to light gray?? Or am I wrong??
- The jeep.com website charges $1435 for the "Dual Top Group", which gives you a hard top and soft top. Some suggested just getting the hard top at the dealer and the soft top through Mopar. Well, the Mopar site charges $1100 for a soft top, and $1700 for the hard top! Plus the hard top is only offered in a Khaki color?!?! For a total of $2800. Am I missing something here???
- Not a question, but a gripe. I can't believe they only offer the "H" Pkg. in 4 colors! I would really like the Impact Orange, but the "H" Pkg cannot come with it. What a pain.
Anyways, that's all for now. Thanks again for all the help so far. I'll be checking back here often, and report on how I felt about the test drive. I probably will be purchasing one within the next month or so!
Mar 03, 2005 (1:33 pm)
Does the new exhaust include a new catalytic converter? How new is this "new exhaust?" Didn't you say you bought the Jeep from a buddy? How was it running for him after the exhaust job?
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Mar 03, 2005 (1:56 pm)
The 04's had the black flares. It was the 05's that started off with gray tops and flares and no option for black. There must have been a tremendous outcry about that, because sometime in December, they went back to black (THANK GOD!).
Don't know about your tops, but it used to be smart to get the hardtop and wait and see if you really needed the soft top too. It was cheaper to get the hardtop with the Jeep and then get the soft top later.
Tops take a LOT of thought to be sure you are getting the right thing, unless you aren't worried about the cost and just get the dual top option. For folks like me, with a garage to keep the top and the Jeep in, and a different vehicle to drive when it is raining, hard top only might be the best way to go. You can just take the top and doors off and leave them off all summer.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
#15985 of 23397 Re: no power [big_red_91]
Mar 03, 2005 (2:01 pm)
Did it have the 34" tires on it when you experienced it doing 80mph?
#15986 of 23397 Re: OME lift [twylie]
Mar 03, 2005 (2:04 pm)
"...PS - doesn't Mac run this lift on his TJ too?..."
Yes I do, and I'll happily echo your comments.
By the way, did you install bump stop extensions? They be all you need.
#15987 of 23397 Re: OME lift [mac24]
Mar 03, 2005 (4:04 pm)
I've debated adding bumpstop to the front to fix my problem. I remember a "hockey puck" bumpstop that some people have liquid nailed to the lower perch that seems to work well and is cheap. My real debate on doing spacers or a BL is that I have 2 itmes that I may do down the road. 1st is a belley-up and I've yet to decide on which one makes the most sense for me. Some require a BL, some don't. 2nd is that I also have a set of used Rubi rims (acquired in a barter) that I have considered mounting some 255/85 tires on for offroad use. I should probably just go ahead and do the bumpstops with the thought I can always remove them later .
#15988 of 23397 Help my jeep is a lemon/ bay area
Mar 03, 2005 (6:47 pm)
I would like your advice or assistance with the repair of my vehicle. My 2002 Jeep Wrangler has been in the shop at Serramonte Jeep for over 7 months now. They are unable to determine the cause of my check engine light. While in the shop the technician accidentally shattered my rear window. All of the paint surrounding the rear of the car was chipped and scratched. The technician tried to wipe the glass up, but only managed to rub the glass into the paint scratching the entire tailgate. They offered to repaint the rear of the vehicle for me. I went back to the shop to pick up the car and noticed that they painted over the damaged areas without properly preparing the car. There was paint on areas that did not require painting. There was spray on the bumpers turn signals and windows. The drip marks and chips were still visible. I complained and they repainted the car again, but it came back even worse than the first time since they painted over the old paint again. I spoke with the General Manager and he said that they did all that they were going to do and that I would have to take it or leave it. Now I am stuck with a vehicle that has a terrible paint job and to top it all off the check engine light is still on. I have been making car and insurance payments for 7 months while the car was at Serramonte Jeep. Is there anything I can do?
Mar 04, 2005 (5:41 am)
I can find a use for those rims if you don't want em.
Do you have a winch? I can't remember.
As for the lemon jeep, contact the BBB. Have pictures of before and after if you have them. Let the dealer know you are contacting the BBB and they way want to consider having somebody fix it right before the BBB gets involved, as well as your lawyers. They may fix it rather than have to deal with the lawsuits and a reputation hit with the BBB, especially if what you said about their bodyshop prep and painting is accurate. There is NO reason for them not to fix it. You are not being unreasonable in requesting that any damage done to your Jeep while in their service be repaird to the same state. As the GM if you could take a new Grand Cherokee out on a test drive and scratch it up real good. You can 'fix' it by getting a crayon the same color and coloring in the scratches. Be sure to color outside the lines. Sounds like their paint job is about the same quality. Their GM would say that is unacceptable. Your response - "Well if you wouldn't tolerate that, why should I?"
As for the check engine light, that is usually an emissions thing. There are 2 O2 sensors on the Wranglers, right mac? Perhaps replacing them yourself or go to a 4x4 mechanic familiar with Jeeps. Are there any codes being set? Autozone has a code scan tool and will often do it for free. Before you go though, go through the code reset procedure and clear any old codes. I think you can disconnect the battery or there is some process you can do to reset it.
Check the Lemon Laws in your state. You may be able to claim this one as a lemon and end up with a brand new one - preferably from another dealer.
#15990 of 23397 Re: Help my jeep is a lemon/ bay area [myjeepisalemon]
Mar 04, 2005 (7:34 am)
To add to Paul's suggestions (which is probably the way to go), you might also get in contact with Jeep's service rep for the Bay area. Have you tried to call Jeep and explain that you have a problem your dealership hasn't resolved after several tries? I don't think that Jeep would touch the paint problem since dealerships are individually owned, but you might be able to get some help/pressure if the service rep agrees with you that the paint job wasn't done right. Of course, the problem will be getting the service rep to talk to you about the check engine light (might not be easy).
Isn't the most common problem with check engine lights on the Wranglers the O2 sensor as Paul suggested? While it isn't a general problem with Wranglers, other model cars have check engine lights come on frequently if the owner doesn't tighten the gas cap correctly. There was once when I didn't get the Unlimited's gas cap on right and it fell off (love the tether that attaches the gas cap to the vehicle!) - the check engine light came on right away. If the problem isn't the O2 sensor, you might take a look at your gas cap - there may be something wrong with it.
#15991 of 23397 Karl's Top Response
Mar 04, 2005 (9:55 am)
I don't get it either. One of the things I love most about my Jeep is the dual tops. I've had my hard top on since October and I'm ready to go back to the soft top. I'm going to wait just a couple of more weeks and then slap her back on. I try to run each six months a year. It's nice too becauase it feels and looks like a different vehicle for a while...and here in Memphis it is way too hot in the summer to drive topless all the time.
That's funny, guys, as I'm posting this a Camp Jeep email popped into my inbox...