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#15875 of 23397 Re: update on the jeep hunt [chow3]
Feb 22, 2005 (5:29 pm)
I have a 2000 Wrangler soft top. This was before they had the newer three ply sailcloth tops (2001 or 2002 for sure). Dont buy the story about them getting louder after 3 or four months. Mine is about the same as when new. Yes, a soft top is louder, just the nature of the beast. I my opinion , the soft top is better because 5 minutes gets it down when the weather is right. I live in the Chicago area and the soft top is plenty warm in the winter.
#15876 of 23397 Leaky tranny and oil
Feb 22, 2005 (6:47 pm)
Thanks for the input. I kinda thought that everybody would take the "snake oil" line. Along the same line, i'm wondering if the Valvoline MaxLife line of oils would help. Yeah, I know, hit me over the head. I just don't want to tear into it right now.
#15877 of 23397 Re: Leaky tranny and oil [davids1]
Feb 22, 2005 (7:16 pm)
I think that oils of that type of formulation are designed to reduce the engine's consumption, rather than its incontinence.
#15878 of 23397 Re: John [koolbreeze2]
Feb 22, 2005 (7:44 pm)
Thanks John. I'll keep that in mind for this Summer.
Maybe I'll just "coincidentally" show up in Aruba the same week my co-worker goes down
He'd have to let me stay on his couch right?
#15879 of 23397 Re: Hunting Starting Saturday!!!! :) [jefferson1964]
Feb 23, 2005 (3:44 am)
Thanks for the advice. I'm really hoping to get a desent deal. I have a feeling they are going to try to "Bend me over" on my trade-in.
Also I have another quesion. someone i worked with told me i better buy a Wrangler now because as soon as the weather gets warmer here (NY) there will be no deals and no rebates, is that legit??
thanks again fellas!
#15880 of 23397 Re: Leaky tranny and oil [davids1]
Feb 23, 2005 (4:10 am)
I use the Valvoline Max Life oil in my '89 S-10 pickup. The truck has 181,000 miles on it, and I drive it to work and back every day, a round trip of 54 miles.
The truck had 134,000 miles on it when I bought it, and I don't know what kind of oil was used by the previous owner(s).
Is the Max Life doing anything that other oils wouldn't? How do you prove something like that? Wouldn't my truck still be getting me to work and back every day, if it had never seen Max Life? Maybe I'm spending extra money for nothing, but their advertising convinced me to use it.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
#15881 of 23397 Re: Hunting Starting Saturday!!!! :) [schafudd]
Feb 23, 2005 (4:52 pm)
If I recall from my days of Jeep hunting, there are of course times during the year when dealers clear out or run incenitves. That weather thing rings true, but from what I can tell, the whole U.S. autmotive sector is experiencing a looong winter in this economy.
I can't ctie any references, but I think dealers have monthly quotas. Every car on the lot is costing them money, and they want to move 'em. In a slow month, they might get more sale-friendly the last weekend of that month. There's also the axiom that with new popular models (like the Unlimited), they don't need to deal. "It sells itself!"
Sadly, these days even invoice isn't invoice anymore. They do something called a "holdback" which I don't fully understand. The point is that there isn't any reason you shouldn't be paying close to the supposed invoice.
If you live in an area with multiple dealerships, you can bargain shop (I played them off each other and got $100 above invoice). If you are in an area with one or few dealers, and you want a Jeep, they've sorta got you.
Somewhere on this Edmunds site they list MSRP, invoice, and market average prices, so you'll know if you're getting a square deal or not.
A final thought: once you buy it, don't look back. Never recalculate the deal in your head, never see what new incentives are out there. Feel good about whatever you worked out and enjoy the Jeep.
Long answer; hope it helps.
#15882 of 23397 Re: Hunting Starting Saturday
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Feb 23, 2005 (5:19 pm)
We also list holdback, but remember that the dealer has to make some money somewhere to stay in business. But it's better if they make it off the next buyer and not you!
#15883 of 23397 Re: update on the jeep hunt [chow3]
Feb 23, 2005 (9:06 pm)
Loud after 3-4 months, huh??? Never heard this one before. Mine is relatively quite for a soft top. I can carry on a normal volume conversation with anyone in the front seat, but is a little tougher with someone in back. Also, i use my cell phone for work all the time and never have any problems hearing or being heard.......Do not believe this story your being told, maybe if they said 3-4 years and then just maybe.....
#15884 of 23397 Re: Hunting Starting Saturday!!!! :) [embeeduece]
Feb 24, 2005 (3:56 am)
Thanks for the advice. I live In rochester there's about 5 dealers in a 50 mile radius. I should be able to get a desent deal out of this. All the current incentives run out on monday so i'm hoping they will want to move a truck and give me a good deal. That's how i ended up with my Eclipse (last day of a promotion, they gave me like 6,500 for a 4yr old Cavalier rs) so i got my fingers crossed.
I'll be reading (and re-reading) about Dealer Hold-back. Thanks for the heads up you guys!
Take care and Thanks