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Jeep Wrangler, SUV
Aug 29, 2004 (3:13 pm)
I go away for a quick weekend trip to Vegas and there are lots of questions!
What I don't like about my Wrangler - 2 things: the way it handles in the wind and the gas mileage. Winds affect it far more than my Taco but I find that by slowing down I can avoid the worst of the unexpected lane change feeling. Same thing with the gas mileage. I'm pretty lucky with my on-road mileage - I can get a pretty consistent 18-20 mpg on the highway. Of course, I get such good mileage by trying to go 65 and never going over 70 mph. If it is windy, forget it. Too bad they don't make a Wrangler that gets 40 mpg...
Space - the rear seat comes out very easily. Mine has 2 cotter pins holding it in, but I think that was changed recently. I rarely have mine in. In fact, my other half has been joking that soon we'll have more Wrangler parts (back seat and side steps) in the house than on the car! If you happened to look at my Camp Jeep photos, you can see that you can pack quite a bit in the back of a regular Wrangler.
Tops - I have a hard top and it has never been off. It's just as fun with the top on. I can't think of an easy way of storing my hard top (no garage) so it stays on. I'm thinking of getting the soft top if I get an Unlimited - the new tops are much quieter than they were in '98 when I bought my Noble Black Steed.
Reliability - Mine has had some issues - but then, so has the 2000 Tacoma. One item was peculiar to some built in 1998 (the dash gauge problem), the exhaust manifold was a problem for almost all Wranglers built before 2000 or 2001 (not sure when they redesigned it). I have also had to replace my A/C compressor, battery, and the lifts on the rear window. Since my Wrangler is over 6 years old and has 125,000 miles on the odo, I'm not unhappy. In fact, we are planning on selling the Taco after Labor Day and going back to having the Wrangler as our daily driver for a while, until we decide what to buy. I'm not worried about its reliability (our daily commute is 150 miles round trip, and involves about a 6,000 elevation difference so reliability is important).
If you like the Wrangler, get it - you will have so much fun with it!
#13989 of 23397 Jeep Shopping
Aug 29, 2004 (3:53 pm)
My daughter and I went Jeep shopping yesterday. It was a blast! We both loved it top up and especially top down. We drove a used 2004 X that was equipped reasonably well with what I would pick if it was new but it was silver. Not that there's anything wrong with silver, it's just not red. I came home and searched some other dealer's used inventory and found exactly what I was looking for. A red X with automatic, air and half doors. The price makes me think it's been in an accident or something so I'll be getting the CarFax report. I'm going to test drive it Tuesday evening. Any advice as to what I should look for on a used 2004 with 4000 miles?
#13990 of 23397 Why a Jeep? - koolbreeze2
Aug 29, 2004 (4:25 pm)
As you probably saw in the post, I got my flame red Sport TJ with soft top and auto in January 2000. It has A/C, tilt wheel and cruise . I was 61 and about to retire in April.
I had wanted one since I was in the service in the early 60's. Today's are not like the military ones except for similar looks and being bullet proof.
I my case, my wife has an an Aurora we can use for travel, longer local trips and times when we take friends (yep, there are people who do not crave riding in the back seat of a Wrangler). However, our grandchildren that live in the area love it.
So, the TJ is my daily driver. I generally have the back seat out which gives me a little more room for the ocasional small hauling job. Whenever possible, I have the top down. There are plenty of opinions about soft top vs hard top on this board. All I can say is don't think putting the top up or down is not as much of a hassle as some believe. I put the top down this morning in about three minutes. It will take me about seven to put it back up. Of course, I probably do this more than most, probably about 15 times this summer so far (that's about over).
I don't off road (although Tom keeps working on that), it is just my wheels. The only mod I have made (if you can call it that) is I put 30" tires on it last week. They did make a difference in the way it looks.
All I can tell you is I like the rough ride, noise, looks and the turbulance with the top down. I do not like the 14 mpg I get with mostly around town driving. Since you have had one in the past, I'm sure you know the phrase "if I have to explain it, you will never understand".
Oh, I live in the Chicago area, the soft top is fine as far as the cold is concerned. The TJ is in the garage most nights, so I have never really picked up a load of snow. Then 3 inches or so it has gotten a few times did not give the top a problem.
It works for me.
Although I don't post that often, I read this board every day, so you are never talking to yourself.
P.S. I hope you enjoy retirement as much as I do. It is as good as I thought it would be.
#13991 of 23397 Re: Jeep Shopping [dave__]
Aug 29, 2004 (4:48 pm)
Hey, sounds like you are getting CLOSE! Good deal! You will NOT regret getting a Jeep.
I don't know what to tell you to look for in a used Wrangler other than the stuff you would check out on any other used vehicle, except that you might check underneath to see if you can tell if the Jeep has been off roaded much. Not that that in itself would be a bad thing, just that you might look for damage that has been repaired or covered up.
I will pass along the same that I did for Koolbreeze. Dealers are selling at invoice (I'd almost guarantee you that one could be had for invoice), AND you get that DC rebate, so, put those two things together, and you might get a brand new Jeep for very little more than you would get a "slightly used" 04 Wrangler for. You should at least check out the best deal on a new one.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
#13992 of 23397 headrests in wrangler
Aug 29, 2004 (5:54 pm)
I would own a Jeep wrangler now, but I have one issue: Are there no back seats with headrests available? I consider this an important safety feature - I cannot see putting my passengers at risk. Any ideas?
Aug 29, 2004 (7:07 pm)
Maybe some after market stuff? Can't say as I have ever seen anything. Never seen the issue raised before. Probably not a bad idea to get something, though, now that you mention it.
I never have backseat passengers. I never even have my backseat in.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
#13994 of 23397 Re: headrests in wrangler [danm1]
Aug 29, 2004 (7:41 pm)
Don't have passengers...it's better then not having a Wrangler.
#13995 of 23397 passenger seat airbag
Aug 29, 2004 (10:11 pm)
I am looking at purchasing a used '04 X and I need to disable the passenger seat airbag as my 7 year old is going to be riding in the front seat quite often. The sales man at the dealer informed me that I could just remove the fuse since there is not an automated way to shut off. Does that sound right?
#13996 of 23397 Re: passenger seat airbag [bballjones]
Aug 29, 2004 (10:23 pm)
Don't remove the fuse! It's illegal.
What you can do is to have a dealer install an on-off switch after you get certification. Your situation appears to be one of only four for which certification is allowed - namely, you need to transport children in a vehicle that has no back seat.
Here's a place to start your research.
#13997 of 23397 Wheel & Deal Monday ?
Aug 30, 2004 (5:34 am)
I looked across Connecticut this weekend and found a Jeep I truly want : 2004 Wrangler "X" with
Rocky Mountain Edition Group , Silver with Black Hardtop. Last night I was thinking I will have good bargaining power seeing it is end of month and only 2 days left for Chrysler $1000 back. This morning I began to wonder : Does Jeep have a history of better cash incentives after Labor Day as we get closer to new model year ?? Is it possible , that a larger cash back will be offered later in Sept/Oct ? Any thoughts on "wait & see " or buy one today ? Thank You - George