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#13952 of 23397 Re: Tom [tsjay]
Aug 27, 2004 (7:57 am)
You're right that they were prototypes. Production hasn't yet started, as twylie indicated. However, they will go into production. Below is a cut 'n paste from the relevent DC press release, the "official" announcement if you like :--)!
THE JEEP® LEGEND CONTINUES WITH NEW 2005 WRANGLER UNLIMITED RUBICON
With unmatched off-road capability, the 2005 Jeep® Wrangler lineup continues to grow the Jeep legend with new options for Jeep enthusiasts. For 2005, the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited adds a new Rubicon model (late availability), allowing hard-core Wrangler Unlimited owners to “Go Anywhere, Do Anything and Bring Everything.” Also adding more capability for Jeep in 2005, all Jeep Wranglers feature an all-new six-speed manual transmission. A new Premium package is available on the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. The Premium package features new and unique cloth seats, silver painted center stack and instrument cluster bezels, bright grille and body color fender flares. Also new for 2005 is an optional
six-disc in-dash CD changer system (late availability). No vehicle illustrates the legendary Jeep 4x4 capability better than the Wrangler, the heart and soul of the Jeep brand. Wrangler is the icon of the brand, offering open-air fun and freedom with award-winning off-road capability to young buyers, seasoned off-road enthusiasts and those who are young at heart. With the addition of the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited in 2004, Jeep has delivered the joys of “Jeeping” to new customers.“The Jeep Wrangler and the Wrangler Unlimited are the heart and soul of the Jeep brand,” said Jeff Bell, Vice President—Jeep. “We have expanded the rugged appeal of the standard Wrangler to a whole new group of Jeep enthusiasts with the Wrangler Unlimited and now the Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. The Wrangler Unlimited builds on the unique elements of the original Wrangler and continues to deliver a true emotional connection to Jeep customers. But with the Unlimited, Wrangler now appeals to a broader range of core customers who require more space.” All Jeep Wranglers wear the Jeep Trail Rated® badge, indicating that the vehicle has been designed to perform
in a variety of challenging conditions identified by five key consumer-oriented performance categories: traction, ground clearance, maneuverability, circulation and water fording.
2005 JEEP® WRANGLER UNLIMITED RUBICON: THE LEGEND GROWS AGAIN
Building upon the success of the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, the 2005 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon takes extreme off-roading to a new level.The Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon model builds on the award-winning capability of Wrangler Rubicon with an off-road system that includes locking front and rear differentials, front and rear Dana model 44 axles, four-wheel disc brakes and a 4:1 low-range transfer case. Not only is this premier off-road package fully synthesized by Jeep engineers, it’s an exceptional value to customers.“The Wrangler Rubicon was too popular with Jeep owners not to expand it to the successful Wrangler Unlimited,” said Bell. “With the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, we brought the Jeep sense of freedom and adventure to a new customer who required more space. The standard wheelbase Wrangler Rubicon continues as the ultimate off-road Wrangler, but both are rigs that are ready for serious off-road trails—and at a significant savings, compared to the costs of modifying the vehicle with aftermarket hardware.” The Rubicon editions feature a Rock-Trac™ transfer case with 4:1 “low range” that slows vehicle speed to give the driver more control, while increasing the amount of torque available at the wheels. In addition, the front and rear axles include “air-actuated” Tru-Lok™ locking differentials to maximize traction. The Wrangler Rubicon also features Goodyear Wrangler “Maximum Traction/Reinforced” 31-inch tall tires with a beefy tread pattern that wraps around the sidewall to help grab ledges along the trail. This state-of-the-art off-road tire includes a three-ply sidewall and advanced silica compound for excellent durability and puncture resistance. The LT245/75R16 tires add an extra half-inch of ground clearance to the Jeep Rubicon models. The Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and Unlimited Rubicon feature unique exterior design cues that include heavy gauge diamond-plate sill guards, 16-inch five-spoke aluminum wheels and a “Rubicon” graphic placed prominently on each side of the hood............"
#13954 of 23397 Re: Tom [mac24]
Aug 27, 2004 (9:12 am)
When quoting from a press release, please provide a link to the source. Thanks!
Aug 27, 2004 (9:18 am)
Softtop and winter:
Warmth is certainly not an issue with a soft top in the winter. The hard tops do not improve warmth that much anyway because they are not lined. Instead of a few layers of canvas, the hardtop only provides a layer of fiberglass. I'd say they are a draw.
The hardtop has the advantage of being able to scrape snow and ice from the windows, and the rear defrost as has been mentioned.
One other advanatge, and that is the flip up glass rear window in the hardtop. Trying to work the softtops zipper in the winter is a PITA as it clogs with snow and ice, and moving the window is a delicate balancing act in the cold so it doesn't crack from being brittle. If you need to use the storage area in the back a lot and cannot get by with just the swing open tailgate door, a hardttop will be far more convenient than having to deal with the rear softtop window. If you won't really need to have that big of an opening for anything, then the softtop would be fine.
There is no dual top option for the Unlimited either. You would have to buy the vehicle with one top and order the other seperately for tons of $$.
#13956 of 23397 soft top/rust
Aug 27, 2004 (9:27 am)
I guess I have the same curiosity as mtngal: how long should I expect my soft top to last? If I could get it to hold together for about 5 years I wouldn't be upset. I figure if I could get 2 years out of a set of windows before they get scratched all to hell, that would be OK too. How long are soft tops holding up for you folks?
Another question: How long before I develop the famous "Jeep rust"? Specifically the rust that you tend to see around the door and tailgate hinges. I know these exposed joints are more predisposed to rusting, but it sure would be nice if they didn't start looking bad until I had the thing paid for (only 58 months from now...sigh). Anything I can do to help prevent this rust from occuring, or am I just doomed to it, as I live in the "salt belt" of the midwest? Thanks for your comments!
#13957 of 23397 soft top
Aug 27, 2004 (9:28 am)
My 98 still has the original soft top and still looks good. Staying in a camp ground during the week I do not a have a carport to park "Eugene the jeep" under so he stays out in rain, snow or shine. Ice is not a problem I let my vehicles warm up. Around 1990 I put a New Bestop (tiger top) on my cj.This May I had to replace a zipper on the driver’s side. And Eugene will turn over 175K on the way home tonight.
Have a great day
#13958 of 23397 Re: Marcus [tsjay]
Aug 27, 2004 (9:31 am)
Thanks for the invite! I'd love too, but with both my wife and I working, and the demands of the twins (9 months old next week!), I'm lucky if I can out to dinner occasionaly with my wife, let alone out of state! Maybe in a year or two, as I am getting tempted to try some "mild" trails.
"Hi" to Ross Allen
Aug 27, 2004 (10:03 am)
Man, both of you work, and you have a set of nine month old twins! Whoa!
That just means that you find some very willing (I'm sure) relatives to take care of the twins, and you and momma have a little get away. I just happen to know a perfect place for that, too.
I'll pass your greeting along to Ross Allen.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Aug 27, 2004 (11:50 am)
Marcus - I don't have any problem with rust on my '98, but then, I live where they sand the roads, not salt them. I don't think the one time I took him out on the beach counts, though it did take me a couple of weeks before he got a bath.
Thanks, Walt, for the top info. My vehicles get parked outside all the time, and usually under a sappy cottonwood that needs trimming. The sap isn't as bad as pine tar (I've learned not to park under them), so knowing that I'll get good service from the soft top is nice.
I have wondered about the back window situation. Since I have the hard top only, I was surprised to find the bar that the soft top attaches to just above the tailgate. The zippers don't worry me as much as that bar does - can you just unzip the window and remove the whole thing easily? Perhaps I've been spoiled with the hardtop!
Aug 27, 2004 (1:04 pm)
Couple of things about the soft top. I live in Chicago area. The few times I had ice (not left out much), I just tapped the plastic windows with my gloved hand and the ice broke off enough to drive. Inside warmed up quickly and melted the rest.
The rear window zips out real quick. It will take some practice to figure the best way to lay it in the back (kind of hard to explain) to make the zipper easy to start. I can do it now in about 30 seconds max.