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#12353 of 23397 Unlimited options
Feb 15, 2004 (3:25 pm)
According to a DC spokesman statement I read on Mikes Jeep news, chasingerica is correct. The Unlimited will be limited in options for the 2004 1/2 model, but by 2005 model there will be most options that are available on the the sport including 5 speed tranny. Should also have a lower base price. The article explains the reasoning for starting off with an automatic is because more new Wranglers are sold with autos than sticks. I know I'll be sniffing around the dealerships as soon as the Unlimited arrives (can't wait). I'll never give up my TJ,for wheeling, but the Unlimited will probably be my new family (boat towing) vehicle.
#12354 of 23397 Unlimited
Feb 15, 2004 (6:56 pm)
Thanks for all the good info. After my Focus, I wouldn't buy anything in the first year anyway. Let's hope the UL catches on and they offer more choices. Mac, I agree about needing another color on the palette, whatever they choose to call it.
Is there talk of a major redesign for the TJ coming up?
Feb 15, 2004 (8:27 pm)
Hey y'all. Thanks for all the input. I was hoping to get limited slip but don't really know if it is necessary. I haven't had it yet in a truck and gotten by, then again I have seen a little snow or mud sap power to one spinning wheel. I have done a lot of 4x4 on patrols here in Eastern Afghanistan mountains and desert country, usually in a Toyota 4dr Hilux diesel pickup. Maybe there will be a Jamboree here someday when we are finished cleaning up There is some awsome country out here for 4x4, but it eats trucks up.
Regarding 2003 vs 2004, I am planning on keeping the beast for a long time and want to get the most for my budget, so it would be the 2003 Sport or a 2004 X. It will be my daily driver (when not on the Motorycle) The same dealer has offered me a screamin' deal on a X custom order too which will save me $ and get me trac-loc and ABS (ABS has saved my ass a couple times), but I can't get the bigger wheels/axles and some of the 'luxury' stuff. Most of my driving will be on road but I still want to 'get off' when I can. It's a tossup, Hmm..anyone care to offer up insight in the trac-loc + ABS vs big wheels/axles for on and off roading decision?
It's funny, my first experience driving a Jeep was an Army Jeep in Germany and the drive shaft broke. We were expecting the new Hummers and I think it had been a bit neglected. I hope to have better luck this go around.
TsJay - Thanks for your sentiments, we never get tired of support from home. Yep I'm a Staff Sergeant. I'm from MN but you never know if I'm at Campbell or Bragg sometime maybe we could meet 4 sum wheelin'. I am planning a trip west with friends for some MTN Biking and 4x4 exploring this summer and am pumped up to be Jeepin!!
#12356 of 23397 Axle /greenmeanie
Feb 15, 2004 (9:19 pm)
"Hmm..anyone care to offer up insight in the trac-loc + ABS vs big wheels/axles for on and off roading decision?"
I'll venture my opinion, which is worth every cent you paid for it.
First, I should state that contrary to many, I think that ABS is a good thing, and that the D35 isn't as weak as most people like to believe.
I would consider the 'Super 35' kit from Superior Axle. This kit consists of stronger axle shafts with an increased spline count, plus a locker.......either a Detroit Softlocker or an ARB (without the compressor). These kits can be bought for about $850 and $975 respectively. The strength is brought up to at least that of a D44 and the only breakages I've heard of have been in competition. There is also a similar kit out there called the Yukon.
That way you can get your great deal on the 'X', even better if you drop the Trac Lok, and have a significantly upgraded rear axle complete with a heavy duty locker.
#12357 of 23397 Staff Sargeant Thomas :)
Feb 16, 2004 (4:22 am)
Here's where my distinguished colleague and I disagree. Mac is a big believer in ABS, and from his personal experience, he has reason to be. Sounds like the same holds true for you, especially being from MN, where it is know to snow once in a while.
I would point you toward the Dana 44 axle, which means no ABS. I feel that the stronger axle is more important than having ABS. Now, that is assuming that you would want a locker and big tires in the future and that you are going to be pretty serious in your offroading.
See, that's the whole thing... what are you going to do with the Jeep? I can see where ABS might be pretty nice up there in MN, and as far as a locker, man, you know how those things are in snow! Would make the Jeep even more squirrelly than it would be to start with.
So, it really is something that you have to decide for yourself, Sarge. It's a shame that you have to pick between ABS and a Dana 44. BOTH can be VERY important.
Come home safe, get your Jeep, and get your butt down here to wheel with me!
Oh, if you are from the MSP area, I might be able to hook you up with a Jeep Buddy who is a super good mechanic and knows how to do just about anything a Jeep might need, including setting gears.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
You only come here as a stranger once, so you are part of our family now. It's great having you with us, Sarge. Now, let us know if there is anything we can do to help ya out while you are over there. Tell your Buds in your unit that we appreciate them too.
Feb 16, 2004 (9:10 am)
Sure, update your profile, or just look up my email and email me, if you want to.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
#12360 of 23397 jeep wrangler; prices paid and buying expee
Feb 16, 2004 (3:22 pm)
Feb 16, 2004 (4:52 pm)
I go away for a 3 day weekend and all kinds of things happen here!
Welcome, Thomas in Afganistan! Anyone who leaves home at a moment's notice to go half way around the world and defend us all has my admiration.
If you want another opinion on the D35 with ABS vs. D44 - it does depend on what you want to do with your Jeep. I do some off-roading but not real hard-core stuff. My stock Sport does everything I want and I don't feel a need for extra strength of the D44. So for me I'd be happier with the ABS (which I don't have on either of my vehicles). After having locked up the brakes on the Taco once (on a dry freeway) I want ABS on my next commuter type vehicle.
I know what you mean about having your first Jeep experience with one that is OD green - though mine wasn't so eventful. Being as little as I am my biggest problem was starting it - my feet are barely big enough to reach both the starter and the clutch!
Last thing - I have a '98 Wrangler Sport that I bought new. I love it and am planning on keeping it for another 100,000 miles (it has over 116,000 on the odometer now). I would have been very happy to buy a previous year for so much less, even knowing that it was a year old. Because by now that year doesn't matter much.
However, I have a 2000 Tacoma that I hate, and have since about a month after we bought it. It was a 2000 purchased in Sept. after the 2001 models were out. While I got a reasonable deal, I'm still on the wrong side of the note. I had purchased it with plans to keep it for 5 or more years (was going to replace the Wrangler first), so I didn't mind. However, I really hate it but can't afford to dump it. Are you sure I couldn't interest you in an overpriced Tacoma (giggle, giggle)?