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Jeep Wrangler, SUV
Nov 11, 2003 (8:18 am)
Just do some more looking if you decide against the old CJ7. You are on the right track in thinking "Jeep" if you want a fun vehicle. It's just a matter of finding the right one in your price range.
The good thing about the newer Jeeps is that they are MUCH more reliable than the older ones, so, even though they may be a little more complicated to work on, they require a LOT less "working on."
Fuel injection, for example, was a HUGE improvement, since people had fits with carburetors very often.
The distributorless ignition, which I believe came along with the 2000 models, is a nice improvement that eliminates some sources of trouble.
You should try to get a 97 or newer Wrangler, a TJ. They have coil springs, and the improvement both on road and off road is amazing. They ride better on the highway and have a LOT more flex for offroading.
If you can live with the power of a four cylinder engine, about $7000 to $8000 should put you into a real nice SE from around the 1998 to 2000 model year.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Nov 11, 2003 (8:33 am)
Geez, Geepers. That milk story sounds like udder nonsense! Just kidding. I guess I'll be tying down the stuff in the back of my Jeep, as soon as I get it delivered. Hey, Jack-be-Nimble, where exactly is the "fog light relay" located under the hood in the new Wranglers? I saw a new Wrangler the other day with only parking lights and the fog lights on...but what you're telling me is that that can only be done with a slight "modification?"
Susan, CONGRATS! on the new toy.
And, as Tom so rightly noted, let's remember the Vets today (and everyday). In addition to the incredible personal sacrifice that each and every Vet made for this country, without them, there would have been no need for Jeeps.
#10853 of 23397 Fogs w/parking lights only...
Nov 11, 2003 (1:45 pm)
Actually, (on the 03's at least) you can run the foglights with just the parking lights on or in addition to the low beams. You still can't, however run the fogs w/the highbeams.
#10854 of 23397 Factory Build Times
Nov 11, 2003 (2:43 pm)
Hey, does anyone know how long (on average) it takes between ordering a wrangler and the time it arrives for pickup from a dealership? I have pretty well decided that I will order a rubi sometime in December... and in the meantime I am hoping to unload my t-bird while minimizing time spent car-less (I'd rather avoid becoming a meatsicle on a grocery run). Of course this assumes that the timing will work out all around (a big pipe dream), but one can hope!
#10855 of 23397 Fog Lights and Factory Orders
Nov 11, 2003 (4:01 pm)
Thanks for the fog light info, Stephen. I assume Jack-be-Nimble's "modification" to the fog light relay will give you the ability to run fog lights with high-beams?... By the way, has anyone replaced the H3 fog light bulb (std 55W) with a 100 watt version and, if so, with any problems? I'm concerned about the heat building up and frying the wiring (a problem I had on one of my Fords).
Andrew, since I was looking to order a Sport (now plan to take an "X" out of stock on a dealer trade), I was advised six to eight weeks, but you now have to build in the factory shutdown at Christmas (figure on two weeks downtime). So an order today, figure on delivery in mid-to-late January. As a sidebar, keep in mind that rebates apply ONLY at the time of delivery, not ordering. Current Jeep incentives are due to expire the first business day of January, 2004. However, given DC's current financial situation, and the substantial decrease in Wrangler sales from last year, I suspect that rebates will continue into the new year.
Have a great evening.
Nov 11, 2003 (5:41 pm)
I've been looking for a while and am close to pulling the trigger and getting a Wrangler - I might have to wait until next Spring though.
A couple of questions: How is the Rubicon for everyday driving? I'm leaning toward the Rubicon (vs. the Sport or Sahara) for the off-road capabilities, but certainly a lot of the day-to-day use would be around town, running errands, etc.
My other major decision is soft top vs. dual hard/soft top. I realize it is largely personal preference, but I would appreciate opinions.
Oh yeah, definitely manual transmission !!
#10857 of 23397 drosketer
Nov 11, 2003 (5:50 pm)
By ordering in December, you risk some factory downtime for the holidays, and it could lengthen your wait by a week or two. If orders are slow, they may take some additional downtime around the first of the year.
The shipping time is going to be a killer for you, since you are up in BC. It wouldn't surprise me if it took up to a month just for shipping.
I ordered my Thelma Jane on November 16, 2000, and I picked her up at the dealer on December 8, 2000! And, to beat it all, there was an unscheduled down week due to slow orders during the time I was waiting for Thelma Jane to be built. The very week that she was scheduled for build is the week they shut down, but even so, I got her in three weeks and two days after the order went in! ( Would have been two weeks and two days, if it hadn't been for that down week. )
That I didn't have to depend on rail shipment is one thing that was going for me. I am only about an eight hour drive from Toledo, and I think they just used transport trucks to get Thelma Jane to my dealer.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Nov 11, 2003 (5:55 pm)
Hey, don't overlook a YJ. I did the Edmunds price check on my '91 and it came up only $3-$5k. I think '91 was the first year for the 4.0 and fuel injection. My engine compartment is relatively simple and it's been a good vehicle.
Nov 11, 2003 (5:57 pm)
Thanks Steve. Interestingly enough, the dealer was offering whichever incentive was better (at time of order or at delivery). Soooo, either he's talking out his tailpipe or they're willing to make up the difference. Hmmm, I *wonder* which is more likely.
Dacemiller. If you're planning on off-roading at a moderate or more difficult level, I'd say go with the rubi. I am much in the same boat as it will be a daily driver as well as a recreational vehicle... I've decided on the rubi as I figure this way I get the best of both worlds with only minor hindrances. In regards to the top option. I am going to go with the dual, just gives you more versatility.
#10860 of 23397 Rubicon / DaceMiller
Nov 11, 2003 (6:01 pm)
Can I refer you back to post #10713.