Jeep Wrangler

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#1062 of 23393 tonkadave by tonkadave

Feb 04, 2001 (4:03 pm)

This is my first time posting here and I hope to get into it quite a bit. I actually read through every post on here just to get as educated as possible on jeep wranglers. Im planning on ordering a new sport with soft top shortly. My question is, I have heard that they will be putting a new 3.7L v-6 in the wrangler for 2002. Do you guys think its worth waiting for the better gas milage and possible increase in horsepower that the v-6 may offer? Or should I just go ahead and bite the bullet with the tried and true 4.0? I would love to hear opinions. I drive a silverado pickup and this will be a second car.

#1063 of 23393 raider42 by tsjay

Feb 04, 2001 (5:31 pm)

What does that Sahara that they quoted you have for a transmission? I personally prefer the five speed manual big time over the automatic, but I don't live in a big city and get caught in stop and go traffic. That would be the only reason I would consider an automatic.

You are going to get better mileage and have better power with the 5-speed, especially since the automatics are only three speeds. The gear ratio for fifth gear on the Saharas and Sports (6 cylinder engines) is .78:1, and with the automatic, third gear is 1:1 (equal to fourth gear on a five speed). So, once you are in fifth gear, your engine turns only 78% as many RPMs as it would in high gear on an automatic at the same speed.

Besides, it is a whole lot more fun to drive a stick shift!

The Sahara has the subwoofer as standard equipment, I believe, but if it doesn't, then you ought to be sure to get it. It does wonders for the sound quality.

Are you sure you want a Sahara? Nothing wrong with them, but you can get pretty much the same equipment on a loaded Sport. I don't know which way is cheaper, if you end up with pretty much the same equipment either way.

I wish someone had told me sooner about the TracLoc option. I had already ordered my Thelma Jane before I was told by a couple different people in this group that TracLoc is really good for driving on snow or ice. If you are alreadyu getting the Dana 44 rear end as part of the 30" tire package, then it only costs $285 more to get the TracLoc.

Hope this helps. Email me if you need any more info or post another message.

Here's Thelma's web page, and it has price info, which might be useful to you.

http://members.aol.com/thelma.html

Later

tsjay

#1064 of 23393 tonkadave by tsjay

Feb 04, 2001 (5:38 pm)

Welcome to the group! Wow, you must be serious about getting info, if you read every post in here!
 
I don't know anything about the V-6 in the 2002's. If it is a brand new engine, I might be a little afraid to take a chance on one in its first year. IS that a new engine, or has it been around a while in other vehicles?
 
I don't see a thing wrong with the 4.0 L myself. I had a Grand Cherokee with that engine and my Wrangler has one also. It has good low end torque and it runs nice and smooth.
 
tsjay
 
Have you hugged your Jeep today?

#1065 of 23393 tsjay by raider42

Feb 04, 2001 (6:26 pm)

The Sahara I'm thinking about getting is a 5-speed. It does include the sub woofer, which I also agree, helps the sound out. The info I have on the Dan 44 rear axle is that it comes with the Trac-loc differential. I hadn't really thought much about getting a Sport model. It did occur to me that you could get the same options put into a Sport model that come in a Sahara. When I looked at the price difference I thought the Sport would end up being more but I could've been wrong. I might check into it a little more to see if I can get what I want in a Sport for less money. The Sport at least has more color options. It would more and likely end up being black anyway though.
Thanks

#1066 of 23393 raider42 by tsjay

Feb 04, 2001 (6:36 pm)

I don't think the Tracloc just automatically comes with the Dana44. You have to have the Dana44 in order to get TracLoc, but you don't just automatically have TracLoc unless you ask for it and pay the extra money for it. At least that's the way it was just a couple months ago when I ordered my Jeep.
 
I have the Dana44 but I DON'T have TracLoc (although I wish I did).
 
You'd better go to a dealer that has sold quite a few Wranglers and has someone who knows how to package options. Some dealers hardly ever sell a Wrangler and the salesmen don't know squat about what comes with what.
 
tsjay

#1067 of 23393 Raider42 by spyrodragon

Feb 04, 2001 (6:38 pm)

Buy what you like man... I mean get the stuff that you are going to be using more. Like me, I got the D30 in front and D35 in rear because I'm soon going to upgrade to a Tera D60 with OX lockers. I have the automatic... Between auto and manual it just depends on what you want, they both have their own advantages and disadvantages off-road and on-road. Just find what you like and get it... if you are going to upgrade, just get the cheaper of what you can get and switch it out...and by the way, JEEPS are AWESOME!

#1068 of 23393 Brushguard is IN!!! by spyrodragon

Feb 04, 2001 (6:41 pm)

After a month and a half of being on backorder, Spyro's brushguard is finally in! Now I just gotta find out when I'll have time to put it on, been making a movie lately and so I havn't had time to do ANYTHING! I'll have pics up as soon as I can on my girlfriends website. http://www.sparx.muddyyellowjeep.com/

#1069 of 23393 tsjay by tonkadave

Feb 04, 2001 (6:44 pm)

Thanks tsjay. I enjoyed reading the articles you posted on wanting and then finally getting your jeep. I think I can tell you more about your jeep than you can by now. lol. I read about the possibility of a new v-6 for the tj on mikes jeep news page and all fours jeep club site. the 3.7 v-6 is not new apparently its just the 4.7 v-8 with the front two cylinders cut off. its rumored to be put in the tj in 2002 or 2003. which begs the question will I be better off with the v-6, or will I have a desirable classic with the final run of the good ol straight 6. I hate decisions.

#1070 of 23393 tonkadave by tsjay

Feb 04, 2001 (7:07 pm)

Yeah, man, it was a REAL struggle for me to get my Jeep! I sometimes go back and read my old posts from when I was trying to think of a way to get into a Jeep. I get a chuckle out of them.

I'll tell you what, though, Thelma Jane is worth everything I went through to get her. She is more fun to drive than any of the great number of other vehicles I have owned.

I assume you have checked out Thelma's web page, but if you haven't, then you might want to do so. You can read my "Ode to a Wrangler" poem and see some pics of Thelma.

http://members.aol.com/tjoh298765/thelma.html

Tonka, I think I would still prefer the 4.0 L. A V-6 is not nearly as well balanced as a straight six. If the 3.7 is anyting like the 4.3 GM engine, which is a chopped off 350, then it is going to be noisy and not exactly smooth running. Now the 4.3 is a good, reliable engine with some serious power, but I don't know anything about the 3.7. That 4.0 L has been around for ages, and it has proven itself many times over.

Whatever you decide, good luck. I know there's no way I could wait that long to get a Jeep (regarding the 2002 model).

I am not exactly blessed with patience.

tsjay

Have you hugged your Jeep today?

#1071 of 23393 Hi tsjay by desertfoxx

Feb 05, 2001 (12:26 am)

Sorry I have not been on lately. Been out of town. No news on Rommel yet. I have not checked on his status because it will drive me crazy! I figure they told me 6 to 8 weeks and if it comes early it will be a great surprise. It was 4 weeks since last Friday that I ordered it so I should be in the stretch! Glad to hear you and Thelma Jane are doing well. Don't sweat the gas milage. Life is way to short to be bothered with such stuff! Keep me updated on your black hard top fix. Don't be to bummed. I have found that everytime I get a new vehicle I get some little damage that takes the "flawless" out of the vehicle. It use to infuriate me, but then I noticed that my vechicle seemed to escape further damage for the rest of the time I owned it. I don't know, maybe I have just been lucky!
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