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Jeep Wrangler, SUV
#10478 of 23393 Long time reader....first time poster
Oct 09, 2003 (8:29 am)
I'm new to the Jeep world, but wanted one all my life. Finally "jeeped" in! Found a one-owner, 2001 "city" Wrangler Sahara with 5,500 miles, very clean, from a Cadillac/Mitsubishi dealer. Not alot of extras other than DANA rear axle and dual tops. I'm probably one of those guys who will hesitate in taking it offroad the first time... Sorry about that! But my 7 and 5 year olds think I'm a king. And, my anti-jeep wife (perceived lack of safety, etc.) hasn't left me yet!
In browsing past messages, I do have some comments/questions: From a few years ago, there was discussion about "noisy manual transmissions" with the clutch disengaged. I also have that situation, and two different DC dealerships have said it's the throw-out bearing. One small-town dealership (sales manager, not too patient because I didn't buy his 2003 wrecked Sport for a "new car" price) said it will get better over time since it hasn't been driven that much. The other dealership (service manager) said it will probably NOT get better, and there's no guarantee a new throw-out bearing will be any quieter. I have a year left under warranty, and was wondering what some of the mechanics on the board (Mac, etc.) would do? Get it replaced now, and take a chance that the replacement could be worse (if we believe that particular dealership)? Maybe this Tranny noise is simply the life of the "beast" although some manual transmission owners did NOT report this noise? (I'm a Honda owner all of my life, and we still have a 91 accord and 2001 CRV. Just not used to my new baby's "noises.")
Thanks, and for all of you living in Western Kentucky, "hello" from a Murray native who now lives in Western Missouri!
#10480 of 23393 Throwout or thrust bearing
Oct 09, 2003 (8:52 am)
If you get a noise with the clutch pedal depressed it could possibly be the throwout bearing. If the noise is present with pedal at rest and the transmission in neutral it's likely to be the standard NV 3550 rattle/rumble/clatter etc.
Noisy bearings don't get any quieter with age, so if it appears it might be the throwout bearing go ahead and get it replaced. It's a zero cost to you and the noise certainly won't be any louder.
As an aside, all Jeeps have Dana axles. The choice is between the D44 and D35. Dual tops are a great option to have.
#10481 of 23393 gocats - welcome!!
Oct 09, 2003 (9:07 am)
Great you finally got a Jeep. Sounds like a great find - loaded, low miles and not taken offroad - yet...
The NV3550 manual tranny is a "truck" transmission and is notorious for rattling with the clutch out in Neutral. Sound could be decribed as "shaking a bag of marbles". There was a TSB on this and your local dealer may be able to check if that service was done on your Jeep. It won't make the noise go away, but may quiet it down a bit. Mine sounds noisy, but has not gotten any worse since 3/01 when it was new.
You'll see a lot of people question the noise, but I am not aware of any failures or problems with that transmission.
Good luck and enjoy the Jeep!
#10482 of 23393 gocats is RIGHT!
Oct 09, 2003 (10:38 am)
If you are talking about the Kentucky Wildcats, that is.
As said by previous posters, the NV3550 is known for that noise when the tranny is in neutral, the engine is running, and the clutch is out. My Jeep has had that noise as far back as I can remember... probably from the day I picked her up after she came in from the factory. It has NOT been a problem, and I now have about 37K miles on the Jeep.
So, if you are from Murray originally, I have to wonder if you have ever been to Turkey Bay? I know you just got your first Jeep, but I wonder if you ever went there with a four wheeler or a dirt bike? It's a great place to wheel! When you come home for a visit, we will definitely have to hook up for some wheelin' at Turkey Bay! (Oh, Turkey Bay is an off road area within LBL, in case you don't know where I'm talking about.)
I have a bud from Joplin, Mo., that's coming to wheel with me at Turkey Bay for the 18th and 19th. Would be cool if you could come then too. I don't know how close you and he might live to one another, but you might become wheelin buds.
Congrats on that Jeep! Now, come on over and let's get it dirty!
Check out my Turkey Bay pics on the itsajeep.org web site.
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Oct 09, 2003 (11:04 am)
Congrats on your purchase gocats. Sounds like quite the find, am sure you'll enjoy it.
Oct 09, 2003 (12:40 pm)
congrats gocats! Sounds like a nice rig.
Once when my other half and I were coming back from a national forest hiking trail. The trailhead was on an easy dirt forest service road. We had a flat (nail in the tire) about 10 miles to the closest paved road, and 20 to the nearest travelled road. Getting the nuts loosened wasn't the easiest thing in the world and I did think about the fact that 10 miles is a LONG way when you are on foot.
#10486 of 23393 not said but assumed...
Oct 09, 2003 (12:50 pm)
I saw no mention of it, but from the way he was pinned he must not have had his seatbelt on (leg pinned bewtween windshield and part of a roll bar). It would almost have to be that his legs were tossed up the upper windshield corner.
Wheeling alone = be careful
wheeling alone with no seatbelt = contender for the Darwin award.
Glad he escaped with no worse injuries.
Oct 09, 2003 (12:58 pm)
to mtngal i think, its hard for me to remember names of people while switching pages, i hate having A.D.D., anyway, my dad is a new vehicle freak, he bought a 2001 Chevrolet Avalance pickup in november of 2001 and loved it, he traded it off 1 year later for a Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab with a 5.7litre hemi engine (hated it) but the Avalanche had 57000 miles on it (no joke), he travels to rapid city and casper wyoming allot from out hometown in the panhandle of nebraska. And still with 57000 miles on a 1 year old vehicle, the avalanche got sold in about 3 months, but it was at a dealers, so i'd plan on trading your wranger in for a more economical car instead of just buying one and selling the wrangler yourself. and by the way, my dad was on his way to california to an auto dealer show, his dodge broke down in utah, he walked down the street and bought a brand new 2004 GM Quad Cab dually pickup. my dad is so strange sometimes, but thats in the norm for us, my truck was bought within 30 minutes of our first sight of it because the dealer was closing, and my mom bought an audi A6 on the spur of a moment after she became a grandmother, but the sad thing is, she had to try to sell her corvette (that my dad bought her for losing weight), but it didnt sell (we tried it ourselves) so we traded it for a Nissan Frontier. we are just car crazy, so sell your wrangler for a good gas mileage car and all will be well, as long as you dont miss it.