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Toyota 4Runner, SUV
#9031 of 11429 re: Post 9009 Aftermarket DVD question by teridemn
Dec 28, 2003 (2:36 pm)
I know the dilemma that you have, waiting for the dealer to locate this vehicle. Once I decided on what I wanted, it took my dealer a month from order placement to delivery. I have the navigation and air suspension.
Have you tried other dealers? How long have you been waiting? 4Runner's with navigation are available but appear to be in limited supply. Can usually be purchased between invoice to $500.00 over.
I considered the Kenwood touch screen Navigation system for my 2002 4Runner, not sure if the rear camera was offered for it. Nice system, but once I decided on the 2004, I never gave the Kenwood a thought. Unless you do not mind adding additional cost, the Toyota DVD navigation system is not a bad choice. Kenwood may offer more Points of Interest, may even be more advanced but to give up the steering wheel audio controls, a very good 360 watt JBL sound system and a nifty rear back-up camera is something you really need to consider.
The following write-up is from pressroom.toyota.com.
..........."A technologically advanced GPS navigation system is available on Limited 4Runner models equipped with the JBL audio system. The GPS system includes a touch-screen monitor with voice guidance through the driver door speaker. The ECU with a DVD drive is located in the right rear side of the cargo area. Quick multiple route searches can locate over two million points of interest that are stored in the Toyota map database. Additional navigation features include English and French voice guidance, 14 map display zoom in-out steps, a linear touch scroll function, four different screen color combinations, and memo calendar.
The optional navigation system also includes a rear-view camera for greater convenience when backing up the vehicle. The rear back-up camera provides the driver with a view of what’s behind the vehicle, automatically projecting the image on the system’s seven-inch LCD screen when reverse gear is engaged.
Audio sound is achieved with a Deluxe 3-in-1 AM/FM/Cassette/CD with six speakers and an in-glass FM diversity antenna. For the audio aficionado who requires digital surround sound, Toyota offers a 360-watt JBL Synthesis 3-in-1 sound system. The premium system comes with 10 speakers, rear seat audio (RSA) with remote wireless headphone capability, a remote control, channel display, and a leather-wrapped steering wheel with integrated cruise and audio controls."...............
Another reason to consider the Toyota system is the warranty. You are paying around 40K for this truck, why have the aftermarket folks cut and splice speaker, amp, and power wires, then tuck all this back behind the dash of your brand new truck. Not that all aftermarket shops will do a bad installation, just need to decide how much more will you gain with the aftermaket system? With Toyota, the factory system is under warranty for 3 years, 36K miles.
Good luck with you decision.
#9032 of 11429 price for 4 runner 04 ?
Dec 28, 2003 (10:40 pm)
Looks like I just missed the $3000 rebate on the 03s. Local( Houston) dealers are selling them for $7500 off MSRP but there ain't no model I want left.
I got 1 dealer offer $500 over invoice off the bat. Do you think I can find a better deal ?
Is there any chance Toyota will offer a rebate in early 04 ? Competition all offering big rebates and new models. Explorers and Trailblazers are $5 to $10 thousand less..
Dec 29, 2003 (5:17 am)
Big rebates=no resale value
Domestic manufacturer=no reliability
a vehicle that is substantially less value than a Toyota the minute you start the vehicle to drive off the domestic dealers lot.
I personally could not think of a worse vehicle to drive than the Trailblazer, from a reliability or resale standpoint. Have you not read Motor Trend or CR? If you are set on a domestic, maybe Suburban or Tahoe, but Trailblazer?
Toyota rarely offers discounts because their product has value and people recognize that.
You get what you pay for.
#9034 of 11429 After Mkt DVD/Nav
Dec 29, 2003 (5:34 am)
Thanks all---I agree with all your feedback!! I really haven't been waiting that long only ~4 weeks. I think I just got a little anxious when I finally saw the new 2004 4Runner Ltd. The aftermarket Nav systems are nice but not worth someone "tearing" into the dashboard and electrical system. The dealer I'm working with gave me the best price...however several dealers were in the same ballpark. I was originally quoted 4-8 weeks--so the dealer is still within the orginally quoted timeframe.
Highlander--thanks for the write up on the nav system!
#9035 of 11429 RE: price for 4 runner 04 ? by scname
Dec 29, 2003 (7:18 am)
I would definitely not buy a Trailblazer. At one part early on in my research, I liked the Trailblazer for it's styling and versatility. When I got behind the wheel, it was comfortable, but had poor handling and was an interior decorator's worst nightmare. Factor in very poor reliabilty, low ground clearance limiting off roading, and some cheap looking plastic interior panels and you should be convinced "you get what you pay for."
I drove a friend's Explorer on and off for a few hundred miles. It is a comfortable vehicle, has standard third row seats, and it relatively roomy. I didn't have any problems personally and it is the best selling midsized SUV. Nevertheless, reliability and resale value are traditionally not so great for this vehicle.
I would stick with the 4Runner. It is a great vehicle with pretty much most of the most important bases covered, which is considerable since it is an all new design.
#9036 of 11429 RE: After Mkt DVD/Nav by teridemn
Dec 29, 2003 (7:27 am)
Here is a little message of hope for you. I had been searching for about 4 months for the 4Runner of my dreams: a 2003 v8 Limited with every options in Titanium Silver. Originally, I didn't think it would be a hard task, especially living in the NY metro area. I guess at the time they were either selling off the shelves or weren't produced in significant quantity. Then, one day, I found two dealers withing 100mi that had the exact vehicle. One wanted to charge me $1200 over invoice. They didn't budge, so I walked away with difficulty.
At another dealer, they had my vehicle, but it was held at another lot as the dealer was constructing a new dealership. It was "fresh off the boat" with 1mi on it's odometer and blocked in by several other 4Runners. This was never taken on a testdrive. I drove it all the way back to the dealer (10 mi) and then proceeded to get a great deal, ~$500 under invoice + a new graduate $1000 rebate. Everything worked out fine with financing, but it did take a bit longer to "prep" the car. The dealer's minions ended up making a small scratch on the lower left rear bumper while washing the car. I had to wait until the following week to have it fixed and it looks as good as new.
Have hope! Your car is out there somewhere.
#9037 of 11429 alfster1 "$500 under invoice"
Dec 29, 2003 (7:54 am)
That sounds like a great deal, I will probably get thrown out by the fleet manager.
Anyone else getting great deals on 4runners ?
#9038 of 11429 alfster
Dec 29, 2003 (8:05 am)
I am also in NYC metro area and looking for 2004 4runner...can you please email or post which dealership you purchased yours? TIA.
#9039 of 11429 RE: alfster by pgill
Dec 29, 2003 (9:32 am)
Here is the info
Parkway Toyota in Englewood Cliffs, NJ, just a few minutes from the G.W. Bridge. I purchased my 4runner in August 2003. Good luck
#9040 of 11429 Thanks Alfster
Dec 29, 2003 (11:26 am)
Thanks for the information. That dealership is the closest Toyota dealer from my house so I'll definitely give them a call.