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#8993 of 11429 4WD on LC v/s 4Runner V8
Dec 23, 2003 (4:27 pm)
I have been a longtime fan of Toyota LC and I was wondering if the current 4Runner V8 with full-time 4 wheel drive is as capable as the land cruiser in fighting rough terrain and snow and off-road adventure trips ? I am not huge on off-roading but just interested in being able to take off-roading and snow covered trips. THe land cruiser until 1999 had rear and center locking differential and in 2000+, they switched to auto-sensing setup that is tied with ABS system. SO, what do you guys think ? How does the 4Runner measure up ?
Dec 23, 2003 (8:56 pm)
The locking front/rear diffs(were an option) and solid front axle on the LC. That would be the best off-road Toyota of the last decade. The Tacoma with locking rear diff is also awesome off-road.
The current 4Runner and LC are equally capable off road. I believe the LC has slightly more ground clearance. I believe the 4Runner has the next generation TRAC as well as the DAC/HAC features which the LC does not.
For your uses, the 4Runner is better. More HP, more torque, better MPG and equally capable for your uses.
#8995 of 11429 vodgut & alfster1
Dec 24, 2003 (4:43 am)
Thanks for the information, I appreciate it.
#8996 of 11429 Question for Highlander7
Dec 24, 2003 (8:32 am)
You indicated that your new 4Runner has Rear Air Suspension. My dealer just told me that this option is not available on the 2004 4Runners. He claims to have done a search in the Mid-Atlantic area several times and can get X-REAS on the Limited V-8, but not Air Suspension.
Would appreciate information re your sales region, dealer, anything else relevant. I have a large horse trailer and think air suspension would be desirable for towing. Thanks.
#8998 of 11429 Satellite Stereo
Dec 24, 2003 (10:11 am)
Has anyone put in an after market satellite stereo into a 2003 4Runner? Not much room on the dash for the XM unit. My local stereo guy thought that the sunglasses holder would be a good place for the car unit. I am reluctant to change out my factory JBL 6-CD changer unit. Any ideas?
Also, has anyone had any trouble with the back hatch becoming stiff and difficult to open?
#9000 of 11429 Question for Highlander7 by mplouf
Dec 24, 2003 (11:35 am)
I have ordered a 2004 4WD V8 4Runner from my local dealer. It had to be special-ordered because I insisted on having the rear-air suspension. When you order the rear air suspension option, XREAS comes with it.
My guess is that your Toyota dealer is reluctant to special-order a vehicle for you and would prefer that you buy one that is more easily available. I believe dealers have a certain number of special orders they can place, and they prefer to use that quota for higher margin cars.
#9001 of 11429 Price Quotes....................
Dec 24, 2003 (12:36 pm)
Why can't I get price quotes via e-mail or phone?? I've tried several local area dealers and all they do is sweet talk me over the phone and send me questionairres to fill out............even after I've sent my desired model and options to them. This is why I don't like car dealers and the sales people that work there......................Not everyone can take days off and travel to all the dealers......................
#9002 of 11429 reply to mplouf : air suspension availability
Dec 24, 2003 (12:46 pm)
I agree with guti, this dealer is not willing to take the time to find the vehicle you want.
Do you live in the northeast? When I was searching over two month's ago I found six 4Runner's with air suspension within 100 miles of my home in South Jersey. The problem was finding my preference of exterior and interior color choice and then finding a dealer willing to sell that vehicle at an agreeable price. I paid $500.00 over invoice, some dealers wanted as much as $2500.00 over stating that this was a rare SUV to find. Do not believe everything the dealer says!!
Go on the Internet and search, some dealers list options, others do not. I either saw in person or test drove the following 4Runners with air suspension. In South Jersey, Cherry Hill Toyota has one in Strato Mica, Toyota World of Lakewood has at least one in white. Yesterday I was at Toyota of Turnersville picking up the tags for my 4Runner and they had two, an 04 in blue and a 03 with 5000 miles.
If you purchase a left over or demo 2003 be sure it has thaw weight distribution hitch that will pull 7300 lbs. For your needs you 'do not want' the 5000 lb. hitch that is flush mounted on the back bumper. And most drawbars for the ball mount will not fit the 5000 lb. hitch, (contacts the spare tire) a big error for Toyota.
Use the phone, find a dealer that that will work for you. I know that Gateway Toyota in Toms River offered to order from Japan if they could not find what I requested. And the dealer can preference a vehicle, a process I really do not know much about but if an available unit is on the cargo ship and your dealer requests it, you may have it in 4 - 6 weeks. Mine took a month.
On Toyota.com - build a vehicle. Option combination #B has Rear Air suspension w/X-Reas and many other options for $5865.00. Of course this includes navigation that I fine very worthwhile.
Toyota of Turnersville preferenced mine, I picked it up with six miles on the odometer, nice way to begin you ownership. They are easy to work with, but you will have to talk a little to get the $500.00 over invoice.