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Toyota 4Runner, SUV
Mar 31, 2003 (9:59 pm)
Toyota had not done away with oil and voltmeters (went after 1995) and completely lit internal window switches (ditto). Both of these were cost-cutting measures on Toyota's part that they maybe thought no-one would notice...people noticed! I think trucks really ought to have oil pressure and volt readouts. Land Cruiser still does, I think.
And for anyone who wants a third row seat, and is willing to pony up for a limited 4Runner: you can get the GX470 with the third seat, right? And it goes for a little more than a loaded limited V-8.
Apr 01, 2003 (4:30 am)
I concur that that all those switches should be lit. Not just one window switches. What did that save them $10 per vehicle ? $10 on a $+30K vehicle. They could at least offer that as option as well as AMP and oil gauges.
The engineer who designed that little console box with the 12V cigarette lighter receptacle, under a lid, should be given his pink slip. "Clear out your desk, Kinji"
The brakes on my V-8 Sport are not at all spongy. They are excellent. I did brake them in properly. Traffic was very accommodating. I have not to really had to get on them yet. I have over 3700 miles and I have yet to use the anti lock feature, or the VSC, not even in the snow.
I am extremely satisfied with this vehicle.
#5505 of 11429 Road Trip impressions
Apr 01, 2003 (9:43 am)
I've just gotten back after taking my new '03 V8 LTD 4WD on a 2300 mile road trip.
I filled up in all of the following states: Colorado, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. No where along the trip did I notice any sort of bad smell eminating from the vehicle.
I computed the gas mileage for every fillup on the trip. It varied between 14.88 and 17.31. Generally, the faster I went the worse the mileage. The tanks that gave me around 15 mpg were generally done at 80mph, whereas the 17mpg tanks were doing between 60 and 70. Guess if you want to save gas, slow down. Total average for the trip was 15.75mpg. The trip computer said 17.2. Guess it felt more optimistic. I don't imagine the coefficient of drag on the new 4Runner is all that good, so going faster you end up pushing a lot of air around, reducing mileage. Anyone know what the CD is for this vehicle?
With 15/19 EPA ratings, this isn't terribly surprising to me. Taking my 19/27 EPA Audi A4 on road trips, I generally got about 3mpg or so less than the highway EPA rating. It's definitely a thirsty vehicle, but I expected it, so I can't complain too loudly.
So far, both my wife and I love this vehicle. Very comfortable for the road trip with 2 of us, and handled the luggage well. It was powerful, and even moderately fun to drive for a vehicle of this type.
My complaints are minor. Here's some of them:
I could have used a slightly larger (30+) gallon fuel tank. Sure it's going to eat through the gas, but at least you can limit the number of times you stop with a larger tank.
I couldn't quite find a good spot to rest my left arm during long periods of driving. Maybe I need to telescope the wheel closer. My shoulder got sore.
The 'MODE' button on the steering wheel mounted audio should cycle through 'off' as one of the modes, rather than just "AM/FM/CD/Tape" as it would be nice to actually shut it off from here.
Locate the 115V AC power outlet in a more convenient place. It's a pain in the butt down there in the middle of the center console. It's a cool feature, though.
Apr 01, 2003 (1:24 pm)
From my dealer.
The smell problem definitely falls within the lemon law.
1) Contact your local consumer affairs department. File a complaint.
2) Contact your local Attorney General. File a complaint.
3) Contact NHTSA. File a safety complaint. Public number 1.888.327.4236
#5507 of 11429 V6 vs V8
Apr 01, 2003 (2:33 pm)
I am the proud owner of a 2003 4runner, SR5, V8, 4wd. I chose the V8 over the V6 primarily because the V8 is a proven engine and has been in service for several years in various Toyota and Lexus vehicles and has been reported to be extremely reliable. The V6 is a new engine. I am confident it will prove to be reliable, nonetheless I chose the V8.
It seems that most of the issues with the sulphur smell have been with the V8. ( Since the V6 was a late release perhaps there just are not as many out there.)
My point and/or question: if the V8 has been around for awhile and this problem has not surfaced in other similar vehicles, wouldn't that argue for a computer setting or a different catalytic converter or different exhaust system.
Apr 01, 2003 (2:44 pm)
Certainly, if it is something other than what Toyota claims about the sulfur in the gas, then the emissions system would be a prime suspect. I remember seeing in the owners manual that the emissions systems are somewhat different between the V6 and the V8, at least in the diagrams they have.
My 4Runner smells like a beautiful spring meadow full of flowers and bunnies.
Apr 02, 2003 (10:05 am)
Bunnies taste like chicken.
Apr 02, 2003 (2:38 pm)
And reek of sulfur...
Apr 02, 2003 (2:40 pm)
Not my bunnies! Them's good eatin'!
Apr 02, 2003 (9:03 pm)
"My point and/or question: if the V8 has been around for awhile and this problem has not surfaced in other similar vehicles, wouldn't that argue for a computer setting or a different catalytic converter or different exhaust system"
GX470 people complain about the smell.
"And for anyone who wants a third row seat, and is willing to pony up for a limited 4Runner: you can get the GX470 with the third seat, right? And it goes for a little more than a loaded limited V-8."
Since they are not really discounting the GX its about $12,000 more for a vehicle equipped like a 4Runner Limited.