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#4688 of 11429 V6 vs. V8 - The Flip Side
Jan 23, 2003 (12:53 pm)
Lots of talk here about the V6 versus V8 and I thought I would throw in my 2 cents (since most people are giving the V8 advice, I thought I would go for the other side of the coin).
I was standing in the lot looking at virtually the same vehicle in both V6 and V8. I walked away with the V6 Limited 4WD. The reasons why:
1. First and foremost, I did not want to be driving around in 4WD all the time. I live in Southern California and while I often drive up to the mountains (and will be moving back to the mountains in 2 years), I did not want to be 4WD full-time. Even though it is a great 4WD system, I can still feel the difference when I switch between H2 and H4. Due to the fact that 90-95% of my driving does not need 4WD, I couldn't justify burning the extra gas and putting the extra wear and tear on the vehicle for no reason.
2. Speaking of gas, I know many here have said it is only 1 or 2 MPG difference (in my case 2, V6 in H2 versus a V8 in H4). Even if Toyota's estimates are accurate, for me the costs added up. $800 more for the V8, 2 MPG less, higher insurance, and more wear-and-tear. Not worth the $$$ to me.
3. My trade-in was a 1996 4Runner and this new V6 is light years beyond the old engine. I couldn't be happier with all the new power. While the V6 is comparatively less powered than the V8, it is still an incredibly smooth engine. I'm not towing anything either...
4. Driving the V6 has been wonderful for the first 500 miles. I don't feel like the engine is ever straining for power. I live on a pretty steep hill and the truck effortlessly cruises up it. The old 1996 had to be virtually floored.
Just some thoughts...to each their own. The V6 is a wonderful engine for me...I couldn't be happier...
Jan 23, 2003 (1:15 pm)
brestle - could you tell if there was any difference in the ride between the V6 (part-time) & the V8 (full-time) ? Kind of curious if the full-time system rides or drives differently form the part-time system, and by how much.
V8 - 2 nice things about the setup is the 1st gear is lower in the tranny. Nice for creeping off-road or pulling.
The other is since the drivetrain is always in 4WD, the traction control is applied to all 4 wheels. The V6 doesn't benefit from this unless you keep it in the 4WD mode all the time. Otherwise you're just getting 2-wheel traction control in the rear.
#4690 of 11429 Question on 4Runner body
Jan 23, 2003 (2:08 pm)
I have a question on 4Runner body. Is it body on ladder frame like most American mid/large SUVs or does it have passenger cabin with fron rear crumble zones like modern passenger cars.
Thanks in advance.
Jan 23, 2003 (3:07 pm)
Actually, it is a combination of the two. The 4Runner actually has a fully-boxed ladder frame under the whole vehicle. Now I say fully-boxed because this is not normal for most SUV's, even those which do have ladder frames. This adds a great deal of torsional (twisting) rigidity. I was told by one of the engineers from Toyota that the body on top of this ladder frame has enough rigidity that they could have just put the suspension and engine into it and it would have been stronger than most other vehicles on the road now as well.
So to answer your question, it does have a full ladder frame along with a unibody with crumple zones and door beams. Along with that, they actually designed the front bumper to be safer to cars on the road as well.
Hope this helps.
#4692 of 11429 V6 vs. V8 Drive
Jan 23, 2003 (3:40 pm)
mrwhipple - I actually can tell a difference in the ride. When I switch into H4, it just feels a bit stiffer.
2 very valid points you have. I don't do any off-roading or much towing so that first gear being lower doesn't impact me much.
The Traction Control issue is very true. Again, for me in So Cal, it is bright and sunny most of the time. Not much need for the TC on all 4. When I drive up to the mountains or if it is pouring rain, I'll switch into H4...best of both worlds for me.
#4693 of 11429 Transit time
Jan 23, 2003 (3:41 pm)
If a dealer has a vehicle "in transit", what would be the maximum amount of time to expect it to arrive at the dealership.
Jan 23, 2003 (3:54 pm)
For the most part if it is "in transit" it is somewhere within about 1 week away from the dealer. This isn't set in stone, so don't use that as gospel, but most times, that is the case.
Jan 23, 2003 (4:18 pm)
Thanks for the info on the ride comparison.
Its nice to have so much sun out here in SoCal most of the year.
Where did you purchase from?
#4696 of 11429 Toyotaken...actually...
Jan 23, 2003 (6:42 pm)
To be fair, most SUVs nowadays have fully-boxed frame.
#4697 of 11429 Steve, and any other Idaho area folks...
Jan 23, 2003 (6:59 pm)
You guessed right...the Larry Miller dealerships here in Boise aren't Toyota.
This 2003 4Runner is my first 4WD vehicle, and I'm itching for spring to dry things out so that I explore around here.
Ever since I moved here from San Diego 11 years ago, I've been collecting books, maps, magazine and newspaper articles about places to explore in Idaho. Now I don't have to settle for reading about it; I finally have a vehicle in which to do it. I feel like a kid in a candy shop.
We took it up to a sledding hill near Idaho City last weekend to let my daughter have some fun.
That's just dipping my toe in the water. I've got about 30 other off-road trips to beautiful forests, hot springs, ghost towns, etc., etc. that I want to take.
I think my ultimate trip (for now) will be driving the Magruder Corridor road. Have you been on it?
For anyone who doesn't know about it, here are some information links:
Have you been on it? Do you have any favorite trails around here?