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Toyota 4Runner, SUV
#3762 of 11429 Review from Detroit News
Oct 23, 2002 (8:16 am)
says "New 4Runner lacks distinction".
Although not shopping for a 4Runner, I just like to keep up with what Toyota is doing in the marketplace.
I fail to see the point of this truck based SUV in a market going to car based SUVs, since most people don't go offroad anyway. Not very roomy, overpriced, even though the quality is top notch and so is the powertrain. My prediction is that it will flop, and Toyota will phase it out after this generation in favor of a less expensive SUV based on the upcoming Tacoma pickup.
Oct 23, 2002 (8:21 am)
My 97 4 Runner has 95k and every mile has been with 87 octane. Runs great. I've only done routine maintenance. About every 4th tank is Chevron because it has Techron. I think it helps, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt.
Oct 23, 2002 (8:42 am)
Keep in mind that I have been sitting in an F&I office for over a year now and I don't remember all the exact numbers. I believe that if you look at what is now standard versus what was optional before and add $1300 to account for the V8, you will find that the new one is is only a little more than the previous generation. Ignore, the base MSRP because they never came basic.
#3765 of 11429 87 octane for me...
Oct 23, 2002 (9:03 am)
I have an '02 4Runner. It has been getting 87 octane since day 1. The engine is designed to run at 87 octane. The ONLY time that you MAY need higher octane is when you tow regularly. Again, MAY need higher octane.
I use Chevron Fuel System Cleaner every 3000 miles. I like them. All of the brands are probably the same, but Chevron did good on my old car.
#3766 of 11429 Octane for my 99
Oct 23, 2002 (9:24 am)
I have a '99 with 106,000 on the odometer and ran 87 octane with different brands of gasoline, I (a year ago) switched to Texaco super unleaded and added a TRD air filter and it runs with a little more punch. I did the air filter first and then increased the octane level, personally, it helped my performance and increased my gas mileage about 1+ mpg. When I go back to the 87, it just doesn't have the little bit of punch that I get with the higher octane. But, don't get me wrong, it runs perfectly fine on 87,but, I do notice the difference with the octane....Particularly, driving a lot of hills...
Oct 23, 2002 (9:30 am)
All I am really trying to determine is the difference in price of the V6 and V8. Are you saying that you think the $1300 is attributable to the V8 engine or to the upgraded features? About what price difference will there be between the V6 and V8. Thanks for your input and expertise.
#3768 of 11429 Copy of email from Toyota Customer Service--FYI
Oct 23, 2002 (9:38 am)
"We make every effort to manufacture a quality product by researching, testing, and constantly monitoring performance. Consumer opinion and perception also play an active role in our ongoing efforts to lead the automobile industry in quality, innovation, styling, and reliability.
It is through communications such as yours that we become aware of the reactions and expectations of our customers.
While we have no current plans regarding the cladding on the SR5, your input will be considered, along with that of other customers and other input from Toyota's ongoing research, which uses sources including customer feedback, consumer research, focus groups and market studies.
Due to the length of the product development cycle, every effort is made to ensure that the product we produce is desirable to its intended audience when a vehicle is introduced, and for as long as possible during its product cycle. Our best research indicates a favorable acceptance of the SR5 cladding, for its rugged appearance, durability and its help with resisting the effects of factors encountered in the course of off-roading. You may notice use of similar materials on competitive off-road vehicles, from both overseas and domestic brands.
The bottom line is that Toyota appreciates your willingness to stand up and be counted, whether you like a particular feature or not, because our success is directly tied to the ability of our vehicles to meet the wants and needs of our customers; your communication with us facilitates that process and helps us make decisions that affect our product offerings down the road."
Oct 23, 2002 (10:19 am)
I actually haven't sat down and examined sticker for sticker features. If I remember correctly, a "loaded" SR5 last year, sans leather ran about $33K. A similarly equipped 2003 is about $34,400. I figure the engine should be about $1300 worth of difference based on the prices of the Tundra V8 and V6. That means the 2003 is roughly the same price as a 2002 give or take a couple hundred.
#3770 of 11429 Build Your Own Site
Oct 23, 2002 (10:44 am)
I happen to look at the Toyota site that has "Build Your Own". Sure enough it has two pictures of the 2003 4Runners with a banner saying $1500 off the Limited. But the specs, such as the 3.4 V6 engine and rear drum brakes are for the 2002. Bottom line: They have only partially upgraded their site. Which makes it a little confusing. Unfortunately they haven't upgraded the prices.
One other thing about the Toyota site, they have a 4Ruuner off road game and I couldn't get past the first check point while my son, who is too young to drive went through three different courses, sand, uphill and downhill.