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#3745 of 11429 My test drive experience with 2003 4runner
Oct 22, 2002 (4:42 pm)
I owned 2002 a toyota sequoia. But my wife was initmidated by its size. So I am looking into the new 4runner. I agreeed with everybody here that the cladding in SR5 is horrible. It might be a good idea if Toyota adopts similar plastics as used in lexus ES300. Another thing I doesn't like is the weird air conditioner knob. It looks plain cheap.
The second row doesn't have enough leg room and head room, especially equiped with the side curtain air bag. Driver seat has plenty of leg room but barely any head room. I sit in a SR5 which has no power seat option. My head almost ouched the roof. So I think power seat is a must for any one over 6 feet since the manual seat can not be lowered ( though it can be tilted.) But my sale guy told me that only limited version comes with power seats.
Now back to my test drive experience . Silky smooth tranmission and super quiet engine. I drove the sequoia so I can assure you the 5 speed transmission is a lot smoother than sequoia. 2003 4runner drives faster, tighter and quieter. So 4 runner wins thumb up here. The rear seat design allow the second row to be lowered to creat the huge flat area. Very neat design.
So overall the power train is the best in its class. It handles nimble, drives quick and park with easy. All in all, if you are not too tall and have the money to go for limited, or the cladding doesn't bother you, it is a vechicle for you.
#3746 of 11429 manual seats / gas_guzzler
Oct 22, 2002 (4:45 pm)
The manual seats can be lowered or raised for height adjustment.
Oct 22, 2002 (4:46 pm)
One word of advice for anyone who doesn't want to pay MSRP - SHOP! Example: If you're in New England, I suggest you go to the biggest Toyota Dealer in Ct. (Hartford Toyota) like I did and see - (can I say R.J.'s name here?). There are 6 dealers within a 30 mile radius of Hartford. I drove an extra 10 miles from my house and saved a couple of big ones. My Galactic Gray Limited is on the way. Any questions?
#3748 of 11429 RE: History lesson by cliffy1
Oct 22, 2002 (5:37 pm)
Nothing against Cliffy but the economy was doing a whole lot better in Feb '96 than now.
P.S. I want a 4x4 SR5 without all the cladding and crap.
#3749 of 11429 rugged look?
Oct 22, 2002 (5:51 pm)
If Toyota wants a car that looks rugged, why don't they just put the cladding on the Sport models. Those are the consumers who would most likely be interested in off-road and "rugged" features.
I called customer service today and they were not the least bit interested in what I had to say. The guy was a total moron, much like many car salesmen that have told me that the 03 runner only comes in a V6. He knew absolutely nothing about the cars and put me on hold for ten minutes to tell me that the SR5 did not come with bodycolored cladding. Oh well! I will keep calling until someone listens and hopefully changes it! Goodluck to all... Please call!
mrwhipple--I agree, just who did they interview to get that research? What country? must have been the GM design team!
Oct 22, 2002 (7:29 pm)
This is my first post into the forum. I've been reading your posts since earlier in the year, back when "Buzz Light" said the 03's would be in the dealerships in March. Just want to say you guys are a great source of information!!
I went last Saturday to get a brochure and see the 03 in person. No brochures available but did take a test drive (SR-5 with the only options a roof rack and the $699 scam - free oil change, scotchguard, undercoating, etc - that the Southeast distributors charge). Have to concur with many of you, the engine and ride were smooth! I was really impressed. Just don't like that plastic cladding. Even the salesman said it did make it look cheap. Kind of reminds you of the cladding on the Xterra.
All in all, I'll get use to the design, but still think the 02 looked better. Now I have to see if I can wait until Jan for the V6's, or go to the "dark side" for the 03 Pathy as some of you have (I get a weekly call from the Nissan dealership - just waiting for them to bring back 3.9% financing and incentives). I would prefer the Runner for Toyota quality and resale, but here in the Miami area, it's next to impossible to negotiate a reasonable price with Toyota because of the large export market. Nissan is more willing to negotiate price. BTW the Toyota salesman said the V6's would be $2000 less. Any truth to that Cliffy? I find that one hard to believe!
Oct 22, 2002 (7:38 pm)
Welcome aboard! Thanks for the report and we're looking forward to hearing a lot more from you!
Oct 23, 2002 (5:25 am)
I would be shocked if the V6 were $2000 less. The price difference between a Tundra V8 and V6 is only about $1100 and that is between the 4.7 V8 and the 3.4 V6.
#3753 of 11429 Interesting!
Oct 23, 2002 (5:42 am)
Go to the Toyota website. Check out the "build your own" section
Interesting new information.
For a V6 SR5 the price starts at $26335
Next to the limited picture, there's a small label" MSRP reduced $1500".
It looks to me Toyota is slapped by the economy reality.
Oct 23, 2002 (6:07 am)
I'm 6'6" and i also had a problem with the seats in giving thigh support. I hope Toyota will correct this in the future. I guess for now, I will be looking at another SUV to buy.