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You are in the Toyota 4Runner
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Toyota 4Runner, SUV
Jul 20, 2002 (10:44 am)
In regards to your post about the incentives, down in Southern CA, the rebates are $1500 or in lieu of the rebates, there are also 1.9, 2.9 and 3.9 finance rates for folks with good to great credit history. That seems to be a very good incentive in Southern CA and sales for 4Runner are actually up 19% over last year at this time on pretty much the same product.
That is indicative of the incentives working very well in a marketplace fraught with serious competition. Even some of the Toyota product competes with itself. Limited 4WD 4Runner buyers are definitely smart to instead look at a Limited Highlander, and a Sequoia for similar pricing. That sort of competition is very different than what the market was in 1998, 1999, and 2000.
Jul 20, 2002 (12:55 pm)
Thanks for the pricing perspective. If sales are up nearly 20% as you say, then I'd venture Toyota is pricing the Runner just right.
But for me, even more generous incentives would be fantastic.
I'm not holding my breath, though.
Jul 20, 2002 (1:05 pm)
I'd be very surprised if the incentives got any better than they are now. I guess it is possible, but not likely. The vehicles are moving at a good clip and the supplies are dwindling at a pace that will leave almost none by the time the 2003s arrive in late September. That is Toyota's goal. Unless the current pace slowed considerably, I don't see that they would have a reason to change things.
#2207 of 11429 '03 Top-Spy Shot & Rward99
Jul 20, 2002 (3:23 pm)
Okay, here's the info straight from Ron at Top-Spy:
"The issue of identifying prototypes is always a difficult one, especially when the car/truck is heavily disguised as is typical of Toyotas. I also originally thought the truck shown in the Top-Spy site was the 4Runner. What changed my mind is when we also got photos of a different Toyota SUV, also being tested at the same time as the Prado. I believe the other SUV, not shown on the Top-Spy site, is the
4Runner. It is a completely different-looking vehicle than the Prado. One major difference is it has the rear tailgate with retracting rear window, typical of the 4Runner. The Prado has a side-hinged door [like the GX 470]. A [spy] photo of the 4Runner appeared in the June issue of Truckin', and [another] in the July/Aug issue of Truck Trend, in case you would like to get a look at it. Having left hand drive and no fender mirrors on the Prado is not all that unusual since the Prado is sold in many countries outside of Japan.
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So he confirms your logic, Rward99, that the steering wheel and fender mirror are not indications. I realize that your link was to the Australian site, which is what I meant in my post in reference to "Aussie." I was just making the point that it was the same vehicle as the one on the Japan site. Sorry you can't get that link to work. Some people seem to have trouble with Yahoo! Photos, and some don't. It usually helps if you register with them, if you haven't already.
As far as the new design meeting my expectations, I'm with you. It's just too hard to make an assessment at this time, with all of the black-out on. From what I know so far about the interior and many of the new features, I'm sold! I like the basic shape of what we can see, and the front end looks pretty cool so far as I can tell. If it looks as bold and beefy as the GX, while retaining the sculpted accents of the current design, then sign me up for a Sport Edition 4x4 in black please! Of course, like you, I'm waiting until after the V6 becomes available to test both engines, and I'm able to get close to invoice for it too, maybe with some 2003 incentives as well.
Jul 20, 2002 (7:48 pm)
Well I pulled the trigger on a new Sequoia today. I was able to get it for $5,000 under list,$40,272 which is invoice. List was $45,371 They gave me 4.75% for 5 years through Chase bank and $19,000 for my 99 SR5 with 40,000 miles on it. I think I did pretty well, does anybody have an opinion on how I did ? I am curious !
#2210 of 11429 Dude you kicked *ss
Jul 20, 2002 (8:10 pm)
Purchase price was as good as it gets and they really steped up to plate on your trade. That interest rate is better than the 5.9% for 60 I got on my wifes RX00 from our credit union.
#2211 of 11429 Maintenance questions
Jul 20, 2002 (11:19 pm)
I'm three weeks into owning a '99 4Runner (SR5, 4WD) and hope you can help me with a few questions...
1) The 4Runner has 265/70R16 tires, with the rear tires showing more wear than the front. I don't know if they've ever been rotated (heck, I don't know if they're even original equipment -- did the 4Runner come stock with Wrangler RT/S?) How often should I rotate the tires?
2) Much to my chagrin, I noticed a few days ago that I don't have a spare tire. There's a rim, but no tire (I checked the rest of the truck over at the dealership, but it never occurred to me to think that a truck with 27,000 miles on the odometer wouldn't have a spare). What size spare should I be carrying? The truck came with a Toyota trailer hitch, for what it's worth.
3) I'm getting close to the 30,000 mile mark, and due for both an oil change and scheduled maintenance. I'm considering switching to synthetic oil. What brand works best in the 4Runner? What about differential fluids?
4) Speaking of oil changes, should I stick with the Toyota oil filter, or is there another brand that works as well? What about the oil plug? Do I need to stock up on crush washers or the like?
I really like the truck so far (even though it wasn't what we were looking for to replace my S10, but that's a different story). Thanks for the help!
#2212 of 11429 02 Sequoia purchase
Jul 21, 2002 (5:24 am)
jimxo- I went in there originally with a check from PeopleFirst.com. They had a 72 month rate at 6.25 if I would use automatic withdrawl. When I went to finalize the papers the business manager said they could not come close to the 6.25% on 72 months but they could offer me 4.75% on 60 months through Chase Manhattan Bank because of my credit rating. My credit union was a 5.65% for 60 months and 6.50% on 72. It seemed too good to pass up so I bit the bullet on the higher payment and saved over $3,000 in interest. I could not believe I got that rate on a Toyota that does not basically have any incentives right now. The dealer I went to had 5 Sequoia's that they were selling at this price. The only one that was not listed in their add was the one we purchased a silver sky colored one. They told me that color was not part of the sale, but that Thunder gray was.I do not know if this was a trick or not, but I stuck to my guns and was going to walk out if they would not offer me the price on the silver sky colored one, they made the deal. One thing struck me as really funny however ! When I was cleaning my car out, they approached me and said " we have a problem, we thought you SR5 was a 2000, you have a 99" I told them you knew it was a 99 because of the black fender flares,and secondly the sales manager was the person who sold me my 99 SR5. To make a long story short, he made it work. Why would he approach me with this when he knew darn well I would toss the deal if they tried to change it ? Is this a tactic they use to make you think you got a tremendous deal to keep you coming back ? I was really confused as to why he would even mention it to me, where they trying to get out of the deal becuase they had a buyer for the silver sky at the higher price and were going to try and get me to switch to thunder gray ? I really thought they were going to come back at me and say we thought your SR5 was a 2000, we will honer our price on the vehicles on the sales list, not on this one. Well it did not happen, I can't figure what they were trying to do.