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Re: Highway driveability [ghosh] by tidester HOST
Jun 14, 2006 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: ghosh (Jun 14, 2006 9:20 am)

Long time lurker, first time poster.
 
It's easy to forget: ghosh, "Toyota 4Runner" #10370, 24 Dec 2004 7:13 am!keywords=
 
I don't think Chuck was calling anyone a liar but he was expressing skepticism. And we can't be all that certain that bt won't/hasn't returned.
 
tidester, host
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Re: Highway driveability [ghosh] by chuck1
Jun 14, 2006 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: ghosh (Jun 14, 2006 9:20 am)

I did not call anybody any names. It always amazes at claims of miles-per-gallon that people make. Some people make claims about their vehicles that they can't technological achieve.
 
Can you get a "good fluke" tank? Yes, if someone tells me that got 25mpg in a V8 4Runner while on the open road,not running the air conditioner, with over-inflated tires, going down hill, with a tail wind that is a different story.
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Re: 4Runner engines [nedzel] by jeffer3
Jun 14, 2006 (6:27 pm)
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Replying to: nedzel (Jun 14, 2006 7:40 am)

While I don't completely understand the relationship between horsepower and torque I do understand that more torque is better for pulling more load or pulling yourself out of a ditch. But from what I can see the new Camry engine has 268hp and 248 ft-lbs of torque. I'll bet that's way more than the earlier 4runners had. The current 4runner V6 has 236hp and 266 ft-lbs of torque. Now to me the difference between 248 and 266 doesn't seem like all that much.
And in this day and age with global warming, green-house gases, wars and being beholding to foreign countries for our very livelyhood, and prices of gas in general, if you could squeeze a few more mpg's from an engine it seems it would be worth it.
The Camry engine (in the Camry) is rated at 22/31 mpg's which I'm sure would reduce somewhat. But if you could put that engine or a similar one in the 4R and get even 19/25 I think that would be huge. I don't really need a mondo hauling vehicle. Just something to get me through a few feet of snow, or a little off road and carry all my camping gear, kayaks and bikes.
Anyway thanks for the thoughtful replies.
Jeffer3
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Re: 4Runner engines [jeffer3] by biglatka
Jun 14, 2006 (7:19 pm)
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Replying to: jeffer3 (Jun 14, 2006 6:27 pm)

Jeffer3,
The V6 4Runner is probably close to 1000lbs heavier than the Camry, it is 4WD (I know there is a 2WD model but you talked about snow and off road), and most importantly it has the aerodynamic shape of a brick on 4 wheels . Even if you don't tow, the 4Runner has to come with the ability to tow (5000 lbs for the V6 - 7000 lbs for the V8) because many do tow with their Runner. The rpm range where torque peaks is probably lower with the 4Runner engines (very important when under load) as opposed to the Camry's high revving engine. There are many factors that go into fuel mileage, including engine displacement. I'm sure Toyota designed the engines that go into 4Runners as the best compromise of fuel economy balanced off against the demands of a 4WD truck with great off road capability and sheer pulling power.
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Re: 4Runner engines [biglatka] by jeffer3
Jun 14, 2006 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: biglatka (Jun 14, 2006 7:19 pm)

biglatka- you make a lot of sense, thanks for helping me understand this better. I got a chuckle from your statement -
 
"and most importantly it has the aerodynamic shape of a brick",
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Re: Highway driveability [chuck1] by jmtreetop
Jun 15, 2006 (9:04 pm)
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Replying to: chuck1 (Jun 14, 2006 10:38 am)

I filled up 2 days ago with 413.0 miles on my tank and filled up with 18.33 gallons of 85 octane from the same pump at the same gas station that I go to every week. That equates to 22.53 mpg. The computer stated 24.3 mpg avg. This is in line with what I typically get in my weekly commute. Again, this is with the V6 4X4. Even though the computer over-estimates, I still find it to be a good gauge of my mpg and I can still estimate if I'm in the 22 range, or 21 range, etc.
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mileage by sacstate1
Jun 16, 2006 (9:39 am)
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I get 16-17mpg in easy city driving and 20-21mpg on the freeway at a steady 65-75mph. This is with full time 4WD and the V8. I have never used 87 octane, always using 89 or 93.
 
The onboard computer is exactly 3mpg optimistic.
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Re: mileage [sacstate1] by chuck1
Jun 16, 2006 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: sacstate1 (Jun 16, 2006 9:39 am)

"20-21mpg on the freeway at a steady 65-75mph. This is with full time 4WD and the V8."
 
That's fantastic! Your getting 1mpg more than the EPA RATED mpg highway at 21! Even with the V8 and lugging around the extra running gear for the 4WD! Going faster than 65mph!
 
(WOW - that TAIL WIND MUST REALLY BE BLOWING!!)
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Re: 4Runner engines [jeffer3] by nedzel
Jun 16, 2006 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: jeffer3 (Jun 14, 2006 6:27 pm)

"And in this day and age with global warming, green-house gases, wars and being beholding to foreign countries for our very livelyhood, and prices of gas in general, if you could squeeze a few more mpg's from an engine it seems it would be worth it."
 
Which is exactly why we may see a diesel engine -- it will get 30% greater mileage than a similar power gas engine.
 
Btw, peak torque values are not everything. What's most important is the torque curve. I'm willing to bet that at low RPM the 4.0 V6 has more torque than the Camry motor.
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Re: mileage [chuck1] by canddmeyer
Jun 18, 2006 (10:32 pm)
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Replying to: chuck1 (Jun 16, 2006 11:04 am)

Since putting Revo's on my 2003 V6 4Runner, I can't do any better than 16.6MPG in mixed driving, and I have to run 89 octane or higher as mine pings on 87 octane. Honestly though, the MPG, which is very acceptable, doesn't bother me as much as the road noise and choppy ride with the base SR5 suspension, neither of which improved when I got rid of my Dunlop's.

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