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#11071 of 11429 Re: 2004 4runner brake issues [chris_g]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Oct 26, 2005 (9:36 am)
You may want to do a discussion search in the Toyota 4Runner: Problems and Solutions discussion and there's also a Stop here! Let's talk about brakes discussion that may be helpful to browse while you are waiting for 4Runner specific responses.
Perhaps your friend isn't doing lots of stop and go driving in traffic and perhaps your wife is, ahem, a spirited driver? 10k between brake jobs is a bit extreme ... maybe check for dragging calipers. Is the SUV pulling to one side?
#11072 of 11429 Re: 2004 4runner brake issues [steve_]
Oct 26, 2005 (10:50 am)
I just posted this in the 4runner Problems and Solutions also. My wife is admittedly hard on the vehicle so I have been driving it more the last few months to give it a break but the premium pads lasted less than 6 months. The brake shop (not Toyota) replaced them for free since the pads were warrantied for a year but they won't do it again since they too feel there is something wrong with the vehicle. If it was the calipers dragging would that be obvious to the brake shop? The vehicle does not appear to pull to either side.
#11073 of 11429 Re: 2004 4runner brake issues [chris_g]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Oct 26, 2005 (11:25 am)
I used to have a sticky caliper on my old '82 Tercel now and then but I'd think it'd be unusual for both to be dragging. Hopefully some more mechanically inclined people will weigh in.
#11074 of 11429 Re: Definitive Answer? [kysersose4]
Oct 26, 2005 (11:39 am)
You'll have to just charge it at home. You might be able to charge it using the ac jack (if you have one), but just charge it when you aren't driving. I think they have a 12hour battery life or something like that, so I hope you aren't driving much more than 12 hours without taking a break.
#11075 of 11429 Re: 2004 4runner brake issues [chris_g]
Oct 26, 2005 (11:47 am)
I admittedly drive very hard and since my 4runner isn't my daily driver any more, it gets the tough duties and is taken offroading often. That being said, I'm at 20,000 miles and still have 75% left on my pads. Between it being new and now, I can tell the difference in the amount of pressure I put on the brakes to stop (it's more loose now than < 5000 miles), but the pad life is doing great for me. Now either you wife drives like a total freaking nut, or you have something wrong. I have the Sport model which has *much* bigger breaks than the other models, so if you don't have the big lexus calipers like the sport does, take that into consideration.
#11076 of 11429 Re: Which 4runner should I buy? [texashato]
Oct 26, 2005 (12:01 pm)
Here you go:
1. In '05 they switched to the 5-speed for the V-6?? Really? My '03 has a 4 speed with the V-6. The V-8 only had the new 5-speed tranny. That was the original debate V-6 (new engine, proven tranny) or V-8 (proven engine, new tranny)
2. See above post, if they switched it from the 4 speed to 5 speed between '03 and '05 I'm sure they aren't switching back.
3. Easy. No. Different, not lighter duty or heavier duty.
**You confused me by having two #4's.**
4_1. The gear ratio of the two tranny's will be different. They are not a 1 to 1 comparison in gears 1 - 4. Gear 4 in the 4-speed will be a different ratio than gear 4 in the 5 speed. Either look in the brochure or search around to find the gear ratios. I know when car and driver does tests, they put the gear ratios in the specs. I just checked edmunds here and they didn't have the ratios listed.
4_2. If you have the X-Reas (sport or option on Limited), in V-6 or V-8, your suspension will be different than the non X-Reas. Otherwise, engine doesn't change the suspension at all.
5. There's a LSD in the 4WD model as well. So no different.
Hope I was some help.
#11077 of 11429 Re: Which 4runner should I buy? [jaredmsd]
Oct 27, 2005 (9:18 pm)
1) The 06 V6 has the 5 speed. It is a very nice tranny. It is much smoother than the four.
Don't know about 2-4, but they don't seem particularly important.
5) The LSD is in the center of the 4WD. I don't think the 2WD has a LSD. They do have a "simulated LSD." This is where they use the ABS system to apply the brakes to the side that is slipping. They call this ATRAC on the 4WD.
#11078 of 11429 Something different
Oct 28, 2005 (11:31 am)
No question below, just thought I'd post something different for a change. I finally finished the last stage of my 4runner upgrade this weekend, and I thought I'd post a before/after pic. Oh, I have a '03 4Runner Sport 4wd V-6.
I don't know if anyone is interested, so I won't add any details. If you are, reply to this and I'll talk all about it.
#11079 of 11429 Re: Something different [jaredmsd]
Oct 31, 2005 (8:58 am)
Interested. Very Interested. Let's hear the details! More Pics!!
Did you go with the OME lift or one of the spacer lifts? What brand of sliders are those?
I'm particulary linterested in how you feel about acceleration and cruising with the larger tires and the V6. I've got the V6 and would like to go to 265/70R17 and I'm interested in hearing about how much performance you feel that you've lost. Of course, it looks like your tires might be 285s.
#11080 of 11429 Re: Something different [tradscott]
Oct 31, 2005 (11:14 am)
More pics can be seen here.
"Did you go with the OME lift or one of the spacer lifts?"
Neither. I removed the X-Reas system. It's now sitting in a box. I went with Donahoe Racing's front Coilovers set at 2" lift in the front. In the rear, I had Deaver Spring make me some coils that were 2" higher and 30% stiffer than stock and paired them with Bilstein 5100 shocks. Definitely not a cheap setup, but for what I'm using it for (high speed desert offroading), it is well worth it.
"What brand of sliders are those?"
Demello Offroad sliders. Demello make the best sliders around for Toyotas. These are his hybrid sliders (round outside tube, square inside tube). I should be able to drop the truck from several feet onto a rock w/o the sliders crashing into the truck.
The tires I'm running are actually bigger than 285's, they are 33x12.50R17 TrXus MT's. They are big, burly and heavy. I was preparing myself to be robbed of all my power once I got those things on, but I'm pleasantly surprised. Acceleration and crusing seem to be good still. Obviously there is a difference, the weight feels about twice the former stock tire, but the added diameter actually offsets that weight while crusing. With this powerful v6 I can still haul off the line. I will say though with the big lugs and more air in the tires the truck feels less surefooted on the highway at high speeds. That's fine though because I shouldn't be going 85mph on the freeway in a SUV anyway! I was crusing at 75 this weekend and the engine was still idleing low. I thought I was going have to re-gear in the future, but now that I've driven it, I'm totally happy with the big tires.
265's on the 4th Gen's v6 should feel fine. I think you will be happy with them.
As far as overall impressions and thoughts:
* The suspension difference is night and day. Even the $2000 x-reas doesn't even come close to the quality of the Donahoe coilovers. No more kidney jarring smacks over potholes or bumps. I can take speedbumps and whoops at 30+ and the tires keep contact with the ground the whole time (which is a good thing). The ride doesn't stay quite as flat in the corners as the X-Reas did, but I think that's more a function of me sitting 4" higher rather than a change in the suspension.
* I had to trim to get the 33's on. Took off the mudflaps, trimmed the inside of the front wheelwell and had to cut the plastic off of the bottom corner off the back of the front wheel well. Got that? Bottom, back, front?
* The 4th gen 4runner is SO quiet. I thought I'd hear an annoying hum with the new tires, but I can barely hear them with the windows up and radio off.
* As you can tell, I'm just totally stoked. I can't remember if I'm allowed to mention retailers or not (Steve, if not, please just delete this bullet, so I don't have to repost ), but Demello Offroad is the best place in California to take your toyota. It's a small shop in O.C., but the guys there are the best. I travelled several hours just to go to their shop and it was worth it.