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Toyota 4Runner, SUV
Nov 17, 2004 (2:01 pm)
Wanna hear more? One of my Toyota dealer's service advisors recently told me that he had further investigated my moon roof wind-deflector question by calling Toyota "directly" at "1-800-GO-TOYOTA". According to this service advisor, the Toyota America representative he spoke with had no knowledge or information to indicate that the moon roof on newer (2003 and onward) 4Runners has an automatically adjusting wind deflector. I was even encouraged to call 1-800-GO-TOYOTA myself, in order to hear this straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
Furthermore: Another service technician I spoke with by phone (at another dealership) quipped that even though the owner's manual states that the moon roof has this feature, the manuals not uncommonly contain factual errors...
I believe that many of these service advisors and technicians do have limited experience "driving" these vehicles, but most don't own them and live with them like we do. As these newer vehicles become increasingly more complex and equipped with newer options, I suspect that many of these advisors and technicians come to *eventually* learn about certain aspects of a new vehicle only when an owner tries to point it out to them.
Indeed, I can tell you that on numerous occasions I have suggested to these folks that if they want to learn more about the behaviors and quirks of these newer 4Runners, they would do well to regularly monitor this Edmunds.com 4runner forum. I've repeatedly suggested that if they would do so, they might learn a great deal about these vehicles and become aware of certain issues long before Toyota issues any TSBs. Well, let me tell you, their eyes glaze over whenever I suggest such a radical idea, and they just seem to view this idea as being ludicrous.
Furthermore, even when a TSB exists, don't be surprised if they initially claim they can't find any such documentation. You may have to provide them (i.e., spoon-feed them) with the TSB #... which YOU managed to learn about at informative sites such as Edmunds.com!
Nov 17, 2004 (7:57 pm)
I too have mentioned to "service advisors" that I learned about something on this web site or others and the typical response would be" ohhhh that seems very interesting". But they would never ask for the URL. I guess its one thing to sell cars but another to be a car enthusiast. I just thought they would have an interest in the product they sell. I suppose if you sell enough cars that a sales manager would give two hoots that you don't know what the buttons on the dash do.
#10293 of 11429 Buying a 05 4runner
Nov 20, 2004 (7:55 pm)
I just test drove a 05 Sport edition, I really like the ride and handling. But I thought the stock sound system sounds pretty bad. Anyone upgraded to JBL can tell me if that sounds better? Thanks!
Nov 20, 2004 (8:27 pm)
I have a 2000 Limited 4wd, and I am planning on purchasing new tires in the next few days. Can anyone recommend any tires? The vehicle is not taken off-road (unfortunately).
#10295 of 11429 tire recommendation
Nov 21, 2004 (9:12 am)
Michelin Cross Terrains!
#10296 of 11429 4Runner Lease Special...commercials during football games today.
Nov 21, 2004 (5:11 pm)
I only caught a glimpse of the commercial and was wondering if anyone knows the particulars of the lease. I saw $289 a month, $1999 down plus state taxes, tags, registration etc...i would like to know the exact model, options and MSRP if anyone knows! maybe our host has info? thanks in advance...Marc
#10298 of 11429 Re: New Tires [milkbean]
Nov 22, 2004 (12:15 pm)
The CT's are very smooth on the road, better than the other stock tires. However, last month's Consumer Reports rated SUV tires, and the CT's didn't rate especially high. It's worth a look anyway ...
#10299 of 11429 Re: New Tires [ohtoma]
Nov 22, 2004 (2:54 pm)
The Michelin CT's rated #19 out of 22 tires tested by Consumer Reports. They received an "excellent" mark for rolling resistance; "very good" for wet braking, snow traction and ice breaking; "good" for dry braking, hydroplaning and noise; only "fair" for handling and ride. The 2 Michelin tires tested were the most expensive of the group.
Their #1 rated tire for SUV's was the Goodyear Fortera HL edition.
#10300 of 11429 kheintz1/toyotaguy21
Nov 23, 2004 (4:08 am)
When I spoke to my service guy, he did tell me about the adjusting mechanism in the sunroof. I posed the question to him without reading the manual. Maybe the issue is one of education for the service people.