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#1791 of 3765 Response to Gehe by simonov Aug 25, 2002 (11:24 am)
Gehe, It's strange that the Subaru people don't pick up on the boxiness of the Forrester! Anyway the $1500 market adjustment was listed right on the window sticker. I think it's just Saturn's way of not calling it a discount and a way to move the remaining 2002's here in Colorado. So your getting the 2003, that's great, I know you'll like it. Rain, what is that??? We are in a severe drought here in Colordo, we really need some. We do a lot of biking,inline skating skiing/boarding and it's just a fun car. I don't think I fit the profile, I'm 49, but young at heart and active with teenagers still at home and we already have a mini van and a sedan. They talked me out of white and into red, I'm glad they did. I commute 20 miles to work each day and the Vue makes the ride much more enjoyable. Thanks for the response.
#1792 of 3765 Have Saturn Sales Met Expectations? by oarlox Aug 25, 2002 (12:52 pm)
I happen to be the owner of one of the first Saturn VUE's that arrived in Alaska this past winter. We have been pretty darn happy so far. Believe me my wife drives a bunch and shows no mercy! About 17000 miles since Feb, and we haven't needed to talk to the dealer even once. Maybe we are too easy to get along with, after all don't all vehicles rattle on rough roads. We don't seem to see many VUE's on the roads here, unlike every other SUV that is sold. I guess that you could easily say that SUV's and all other types of 4X4's out number regular passenger cars by about 5 to 1. Sorry to report that the VUE hasn't caught on as well as I thought that it would. What have others observed in the lower 48 and in that little strip of land between Alaska and Seattle? Have Saturn/VUE sales been what they had hoped for?
#1793 of 3765 oarlox by dindak Aug 26, 2002 (4:33 am)
Around the west Toronto area I see quite a few VUEs around but not as many as I thought I would see by now. That said, I know production was small and got off to a slow start. There also was no VTi available until recently, one of the reasons we decided on waiting for another 2-3 years to get a VUE. 2003 should be more telling as to how the VUE is being accepted.
#1794 of 3765 re:-Cash Back/Alaska 'travails' ... by gehe Aug 26, 2002 (5:34 am)
(simonov) -Thanks for your reply. Interesting .... -So much for no haggling. Well. I guess they don't haggle, but they do discount. The difference from other dealers is that they disclose, I guess. Pre-internet, my last purchase in 94, didn't disclose a $1000 cash back and were about to roll that into profit. Thanks you Consumer Reports for telling all. Now-a-days, that info. is public. -Cute your comment on rain. Same here in South Jersey and I planted 15 new evergreens in the Spring that I am hand ('watering can') watering every night. Roll on Autumn. It did rain this week though at last ... and ... it will come all too soon plus the white stuff ! -I'm 46 so we are the same vintage. I would be interested to see stats. on the VUE buyers. I figured that all the 'bibs and bobs' would be a nice upgrade when I hit 50 +. Otherwise I would have been happier with something simpler. I may be middle age ... (did I just admit to that at last ???) ... but I am not ready to be boring and stayed. I bet your teenagers are happy that you have a practical car thats 'cool' !! (you know. For a wagon !!!) (oarlox) -Great report on your hardy VUE. Nice to hear that. -I think the rareness of VUE sightings is the same everywhere, not just in Alaska. I think (dindak) raises valid points, but it is still early days for a small car division. -I see very few around South Jersey, but I am starting to see them more and more as the "last of the Summer Wine" unfoils. Probably vacationers. -I actually didn't see many around Nashville a few weeks ago and that's 'home turf' for the VUE. Most folks have never heard of them or seen them. -The new advertising campaign will probably make a big difference. The last ones were odd. You couldn't get a real impression of that toy VUE. -Enjoy having a unique car. It won't last. Later ...
#1795 of 3765 by vuefor2 Aug 26, 2002 (6:46 am)
I see very few Vue's also, but I like it that way as I feel like we have something special. We certainly get lots of looks and comments on our little red Vue!
#1796 of 3765 VUEs on the road by mmspeal Aug 26, 2002 (10:48 am)
I am seeing a few more of them these days in the western suburbs of Toronto ... and the funniest thing is that VUE owners are so friendly to other VUE owners. I have not yet passed one or seen one where the other driver didn't wave or give me a thumbs up. I guess the "different kind of company, different kind of car" rubs off on the people who drive them too.   I still get many compliments and questions like "what is it?" "how do you like it?" "That's a nice looking vehicle" when I park in parking lots, etc. I think it is hilarious when I am sitting at a light and you see the driver next to you looking and looking & you know they are trying to figure out what it is. You almost want to roll down the window and tell them it a VUE - nah ... more fun not to.
#1797 of 3765 Reply to gehe by simonov Aug 26, 2002 (5:58 pm)
Yes my twin 16 year old daughters very much like the VUE. I had considered an outback at one time and they were not real happy with a "wagon". I wonder if us "oldies" are buying the 6 cylinder automatics and the "young uns" are buying the 4 cylinder 5 speeds. It is unique that you can change the look of the Vue so easily. The roof rack just makes a world of difference in looks. I was surprised they they didn't come as standard equipment but I can see that some people would like the more urban look without one. The car just really "fits" me, it's not overly showy, definitely not in the "Aztek" class, fun to drive practical and a car that I feel good about owning (and paying for. I love rolling all of the windows down and opening the sun roof especially in the early evening,after a stressful day at work, AHHHHHH! I do not see many others out here either. One of the first ones that I saw on the road before I bought really turned my head, a red one with the front bumper extension or whatever it's called. I did a have a man in his 60's stop me in a parking lot and really ask a lot of questions. He wants to get rid of his gas hog Ford Explorer, he was duly impressed, made me feel good too!!!
#1798 of 3765 A Match ... by gehe Aug 27, 2002 (8:31 am)
(simonov) -Boy. Your POST read like I had written it ... apart from the teen daughters. -I'll skip the "Aztek" comments ... I've exhausted my POSTs on that subject ... but will say that a close friend of mine just bought one. I was truly shocked at her. She is a dynamic red head with a brilliant mind that suffers few fools. She strikes fear in all men & women that are not up to her quick brilliance. Her husband wanted a new car to safeguard mother and new baby and researched intently. (The Aztek has a poor crash ratings.) I think she did it to be obtuse ... and they are just about giving them away. We call it the "Wart". -I think the VUE is quietly a 'class act'. Interesting how they have managed to interest ol' foggies like me and youngins too. -I've ordered the roof rack too, but not sure when/how I will use it. -My first car was one of those with no 1st gear synchromesh and you had to double-de-clutch to get it into the others. I won't drive a manual for anything. I mean how else can you drive, answer the phone, have a snack, check out the view and look for directions without an auto tranny ? Later ...
#1799 of 3765 Further reply to GEHE by simonov Aug 27, 2002 (6:19 pm)
Yes, I believe the reason tht the Azteks are selling is because of price. My wife drives a '94 Pontiac transport minivan and it's really been a great car, traction control, ABS, and a nifty compressor in the rear for airing things up besided the air shocks. The seat set up is a little strange but anyway I like Pontiacs but the Aztek was too far out there at any price. I looked at a Rendevous which I know has been another hot topic of discussion, the front looks great but it has the same squared off"rear end" and the stabilizer bars, axle or something underneath hangs down and looks like a lady with her slip showing. Their is also very minscule amounts of room behind the third row seat. I'm sure that the ride is superb and I think they can be had in the high 20's. I know looks isn't everything but for the price of a new car one wants to feel good about what one just bought. Eventually the car will be paid for, but it won't look any different! Great minds (or perhaps warped) must think alike gehe!
#1800 of 3765 2004 Vue info by l943973 Aug 28, 2002 (5:40 am)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020827/bs_nm/autos_gm_engines_dc_1 Looks like they will be moving to a 3.5L ULEV V6 Honda engine and transmission for 2004.

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