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Re: What are the odds? [blueiedgod] by robr2
Jun 19, 2006 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jun 19, 2006 6:54 am)

An article I read recently though said that Europeans and Asians are getting just as lazy as North Americans. Auto boxes now represent over 20% of sales in Europe and are growing rapidly.
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Re: What are the odds? [robr2] by heel2toe
Jun 19, 2006 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: robr2 (Jun 19, 2006 9:33 am)

I am willing to bet that DSG-style transmissions (electronically-controlled dual clutch automatics) are going to kill the stick shift off completely over the next 20 years or so... Eliminating the torque converter removes the AT powerloss, and it shifts so very smoothly...
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Re: What are the odds? [heel2toe] by steve_ HOST
Jun 19, 2006 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: heel2toe (Jun 19, 2006 10:04 am)

Bob's blog about power loss may be of interest:
 
So where does all the horsepower go?
 
Looks like driveline losses are much less than idle time.
 
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Re: What are the odds? [heel2toe] by robr2
Jun 19, 2006 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: heel2toe (Jun 19, 2006 10:04 am)

I am willing to bet that DSG-style transmissions (electronically-controlled dual clutch automatics) are going to kill the stick shift off completely over the next 20 years or so.
 
I concur. My understanding is that DSG's put the Tiptronics to shame.
 
Last year I went back to driving a stick after 7 years of an auto. I love stick but drive into Boston every day. The stick isn't the end of the world and I don't complain about it.
 
But I did take a little spill this past week and wasn't able to drive the stick. A DSG would've allowed me to still drive my vehicle. I'll have to see if my VW sales person will arrange a "loaner" for me to see if I like it.
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Re: What are the odds? [blueiedgod] by joecarnut
Jun 19, 2006 (4:35 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Jun 19, 2006 5:18 am)

For me I get tired of shifting in bumper to bumper traffic every day. I'm gunning for an automatic for that reason.
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Jun 19, 2006 (5:00 pm)
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Honda and Automatic Transmissions by drive62
Jun 20, 2006 (8:42 am)
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This was posted on the "other" site so I know blueeyes saw it. But for the others here you go. Doesn't seem like ATs are an "afterthought" to Honda.
 
http://world.honda.com/history/challenge/1968hondamatic/text/01.html
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Re: Honda and Automatic Transmissions [drive62] by blueiedgod
Jun 20, 2006 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: drive62 (Jun 20, 2006 8:42 am)

This was posted on the "other" site so I know blueeyes saw it. But for the others here you go. Doesn't seem like ATs are an "afterthought" to Honda.
  
http://world.honda.com/history/challenge/1968hondamatic/text/01.html

 
This is what Mr. Honda had to say about the Automatic Honda:
“With this car,” Honda said, “the driver only needs to hold the steering wheel. Even Fujisawa can drive it.”
 
I still say, the engines are designed to be used with manual, even today.
 
not to mention the required maximum engine speed of 8,000 rpm—twice that of a conventional engine—BW claimed they couldn’t find any AT specifications that accommodated those conditions.
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No Manual Tranny by ateixeira
Jun 20, 2006 (11:04 am)
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Major bummer. I know we're losing this battle, but it just seems like we have fewer and fewer choices all the time. C'MON!
 
-juice
 
PS RAV4 lost the option, too. Now it's Forester and BMW X3, Grand Vitara, any others?
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Re: No Manual Tranny [ateixeira] by drive62
Jun 21, 2006 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 20, 2006 11:04 am)

Technology advances, people's needs change, business decisions come in to play, etc. Rotary phones used to be the norm. Sure some people still have them but try to buy a replacement. Same can be said about a multitude of things we use everyday including cars.
 
Should we all still be driving without power steering? Someone would probably say that's real driving too.
 
Since some just don't want to accept the norm (at least in the US) I guess they better hang on to their manual transmission vehicles.

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