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#15582 of 16152 Newsflash by wheelz4 Mar 30, 2006 (5:48 am)
This is unconfirmed, but I've received information that the media launch for the all-new CR-V will be held in Vancouver in July....not sure if that's just for Canadian media or all North American media.....so it seems like the new CR-V may appear a bit sooner than we think. As for the possibility of a third row....yes, it should be optional (and on all trim levels, not just the top level trim like Toyota Canada did with the new Rav-4)...and yes, I agree it wouldn't be too comfortable for larger folks on a cross-country trip, but that's not it's purpose. It's for a couple extra kids or small adults for occasional short-hop use. A family of 3 like us doesn't need a full-size minivan for day-to-day use, but would like the flexibility of being able to carry a couple of extra passengers when Grandma & Grampa or other friends & family come to visit....beats having to take 2 cars. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Mar 30, 2006 7:06 am) varmint (Mar 30, 2006 10:05 am)
#15583 of 16152 Re: Newsflash [wheelz4] by ateixeira Mar 30, 2006 (7:06 am)
Replying to: wheelz4 (Mar 30, 2006 5:48 am) The timing seems strange...NY is the last big show, and the auto show season doesn't really pick up again until the fall. Even then, SEMA is not the place for this type of vehicle, but I guess the LA show would work.   Other than that, they're not gonna get a very big audience. Odd.   varmint: tell us more about this HCCI...   -juice
#15584 of 16152 Timing by wheelz4 Mar 30, 2006 (7:20 am)
Certainly haven't heard about Honda slipping in the new CR-V or a protoype even into the NYC show. It seems like they're going to introduce it with little public fanfare. I'm sure they DO want to get it out there, though. If the media launch is in July, I would expect public sale would be Sept. at the latest. With the new Rav-4 already out and doing well, plus a new Santa Fe this summer and the Outlander due by Sept., I'm sure Honda doesn't want to lose any more ground. And pictures are starting to float around of a new Nissan small SUV....the X-Trail is due for a full model change, however the pics suggest something smaller...somewhere between a Tuscon and Suzuki's upcoming CUV. And let's not forget Mazda's CX-7, Ford's Edge + the refreshed Escape (and Tribute) + a new Suzuki XL-7. It's getting crowded out there! Replies to this message: ateixeira (Mar 30, 2006 9:32 am) drive62 (Mar 30, 2006 10:07 am)
#15585 of 16152 Re: Timing [wheelz4] by ateixeira Mar 30, 2006 (9:32 am)
Replying to: wheelz4 (Mar 30, 2006 7:20 am) Check the Blog entry for the smaller-than-Murano Nissan:   http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee90390   -juice
#15586 of 16152 Odd proportions by wheelz4 Mar 30, 2006 (9:47 am)
Maybe it's the angle of some of the shots (re new Nissan SUV), but the front overhang looks huge, while the rear overhang is almost non-existant. Make me think it will be heavy on the "sport" and a little light on the "utility"
#15587 of 16152 Re: Newsflash [wheelz4] by varmint Mar 30, 2006 (10:05 am)
Replying to: wheelz4 (Mar 30, 2006 5:48 am) A July release of a concept or production-ready prototype seems about right. We won't see the actual vehicle for sale until September or October.
#15588 of 16152 Re: Timing [wheelz4] by drive62 Mar 30, 2006 (10:07 am)
Replying to: wheelz4 (Mar 30, 2006 7:20 am) I'm sure Honda doesn't want to lose any more ground.   What makes you say something like this? AFAIK Honda isn't losing ground to anyone. Sales were up for February. HMC is at a 52 week high.   You seem enamored with Mitsubishi. That automaker along with most of the others you mentioned (you seriously think Suzuki is competition for Honda) are not who Honda worries about.   When was the last time Honda hurried up an intro because they were "losing ground" to the competition? I think never but I'm sure someone can correct me.
#15589 of 16152 HCCI by varmint Mar 30, 2006 (10:11 am)
Here's an article on the subject.   http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/10/honda_making_si.html   Based on what I've read in other articles, the difficulties involved in developing a mass-production HCCI include the following.   1. Making it run smoothly. 2. Making it run well at low rpms. 3. Making it run well at high rpms. 4. Costs.   Honda seems to have addressed 1 and 2. The same casting method they developed for the 2.2L diesel unit probably takes care of #1. Not sure how they worked out #2.   HCCI engines are relatively strong in the mid-range. Combining it with IMA as suggested in the article makes sense. The electric motor can provide boost in both the low and high rpm situations.
#15590 of 16152 Whoa, drive62! by wheelz4 Mar 30, 2006 (11:46 am)
I'm simply saying the current CR-V is at the end of it's cycle, there's a lot of competition out there, and some newer designs (the Rav-4, for example) have moved to the forefront of the small SUV category. Despite it's age, the CR-V is certainly holding it's own and does better most of the competition in the areas of safety, it's 5 speed automatic, and spaciousness. As for Mitsubishi, I like the design of the new Outlander and will certainly check it out, though as a manufacturer, they're certainly not at the top of my list. I'm excited that the press preview for the CR-V is in July and look forward to a vehicle that, in typical Honda fashion, will probably leapfrog the competition once again. BTW, FWIW, CR-V sales were down 7.8% in Feb. and 8% YTD according to the figures on TOV, so, while Honda in general is on a tear, the CR-V is starting to show it's age.
#15591 of 16152 2007 Models by ateixeira Mar 30, 2006 (11:55 am)
Homogeneous Charge Compression Ignition, rolls right off the tongue, no?   Honda is known for controlling ignition and valve timing so closely, so it's interesting to see them trying to deal with compression ignition, which is very hard to control. I'd love to see what those pistons look like.   Back to the NY Show and the 07 models, I'm still surprised they're not at least showing a teaser concept of the next CR-V sooner than July. The Model X came out long before the Element arrive. Then again it had no predecessor.   -juice

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