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Honda CR-V, SUV
#13923 of 16202 Re: Extended Warranty needed? [gregf4]
Oct 28, 2004 (4:50 am)
I have a 2003 CRV with 25K miles on it. With my other vehicle (1999 Odyssey), I bought the extended Honda Care warranty via the internet and saved alot of money. I plan on doing the same with the CRV just for peace of mind. I'll look up my records and see if the dealer I bought the warranty thru (you can buy from any dealer in the US) is still selling .
#13924 of 16202 Re: Extended Warranty needed? [gregf4]
Oct 28, 2004 (4:58 am)
I would say No, but some folks like the peace of mind with an extended warranty. I bought one warranty on a Ford Mustang from Warranty Gold and got burned, they went bankrupt one year in to my three year warranty. If you're going to get an extended warranty, get one through the manufacturer and shop around.
#13925 of 16202 Re: [fhopkins]
Oct 28, 2004 (9:07 am)
Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) and Traction Control (TC) are two different things. Both help manage the wheels using the brakes. That's why they are very similar. However, they differ in when and why the brakes are engaged.
VSA - The goal of VSA is more or less to keep the vehicle pointed in the direction where the driver has the steering wheel turned. It uses various sensors to determine if the vehicle is in a skid or slide (you've hit a patch of ice). If that happens, the car will brake whichever wheel is mostly likely to correct the slide. The drag provided by that wheel helps keep the vehicle going in the direction you want it to go.
For example, if you start to fishtail and the back of the vehicle tries to pass the front, the VSA will brake one of the rear wheels to prevent a spin out. These systems will frequently kick in before a small slip becomes a major skid.
Mercedes Benz pioneered this type of system back in the mid 1990s. Just about everybody has it now on their luxury cars, now. Volvo advanced it to develop their rollover prevention system.
Caveat: No system is perfect. You can still force a skid. These systems are not a license to drive stupid.
TC - The goal of TC is to provide better traction when moving from a stop on slippery surfaces. This applies only to the front wheels. It helps you get moving in the snow or rain.
Cars need open differentials so they can take tight turns. During a turn, the outside wheel must travel faster than the inside wheel, so the two sides can't be locked together. An open differential solves that problem, while still allowing the engine to power both wheels.
But it also creates a new problem. If one of those wheels starts to slip, all the engine's power will "leak" out through that wheel. Power takes the path of least resistance. If one wheel is spinning freely, it gets all the power. The wheel with traction just sits there.
Enter traction control... TC brakes the spinning wheel. This creates artificial resistance and sends power back across the differential to the wheel with traction. The wheel with traction pulls the car forward, gathering momentum, and eventually getting you out of the slippery spot.
You can feel when TC engages. It kinda feels like the chatter of an ABS system (coarse vibration in the pedal). If you were to ignore that and step harder on the pedal, you'd force both wheels to start spinning. Instead of allowing that to happen, TC will also cut power from the engine until traction is restored.
The combination of TC and VSA gives the CR-V two more weapons in the war on bad weather. (Sorry, election ads must be getting to me.) VSA keeps you from sliding. TC gets you moving forward using the front wheels. If you have RT4WD, that adds the rear wheels to assist you with moving forward. If you don't have RT4WD, the TC and VSA will still be very effective in making things safer on slippery roads.
Oct 28, 2004 (5:32 pm)
So what's the difference then between TC and limited slip differencial? I have rear LSD on my Legacy GT...
Oct 28, 2004 (7:09 pm)
An LSD is a mechanical device that allows the left and right wheels to spin at slightly different speeds, but does not allow all the power to leak out one side. It is neither an open differential, nor is it a locked diff. It's something in between.
Generally speaking, an LSD is better for racing and similar applications. TC brakes a wheel (cutting power). An LSD does not hinder power delivery.
That said, an LSD adds mechanical complexity, extra weight, and cost. TC is just a bit of software added to the existing ABS system.
#13928 of 16202 Break in period
Oct 29, 2004 (5:21 am)
I am talking to a dealer about purchasing a CRV. The issue is that the one I want is several hundred miles away. They will send someone up and drive it here for me but, since it is almost all highway, I have a question about the break-in period. Should I be concerned that this new vehicle will be driven several hundred highway miles during the break-in period?
Oct 29, 2004 (7:09 am)
Today's engines no longer require much of a break in period. It will be just fine.
#13930 of 16202 Re: Break in period [mlouttit]
Oct 29, 2004 (7:21 am)
If you are that concerned about the break in, why not wait until the dealer gets one in? It's not the Hope Diamond - they should be getting one in soon configured as you want. That is unless it's an 04 leftover.
Oct 29, 2004 (7:32 am)
They drove my '98 CR-V in from another dealer.. It had 150 miles on it when I got it...
And... when it had 44K miles on it.. the glove box latch screws fell out..
I can't trace that definitively to the drive from the other dealer.. but, since that is the only thing that ever went wrong in 59K miles, I figure that has to be it.
#13932 of 16202 Re: Break in period [robr2]
Oct 29, 2004 (7:58 am)
It is an '05 but I do have a timing issue. I am not in a position to wait.