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18028 messages, Last post on Nov 02, 2006 at 7:19 AM
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What is this discussion about? Subaru Forester, Wagon
#6773 of 18028 by varmint
Jun 07, 2002 (5:02 pm)
Bob - Looks like you're right. They did include the '03 Forester. That's a reversal of how they ranked the previous vehicles, is it not?As for the X vs XS issue, that may simply be what C&D was offered. Magazines often do not get a choice. They take whichever press vehicle is available at the time they are writing their article.
Another possibility is that Subaru is trying to avoid what happened with the original Forester. Back in '98, they used the top end model as their press vehicle. Even though it had tons more equipment than the competition, many reviewers labeled it, "expensive" (by 1998 standards). Edmunds even made note of this in their '99 comparison test. It's possible that this time Subaru used a base model to prevent any misconceptions about value.
I suspect that Honda did something similar with the new CR-V. Notice that most reviews are for the 5 speed. Since power was a primary criticism of the original CR-V, Honda may have issued more 5 speeds. They tend to be faster and would improve the perception of power.
It may just be marketing at work.
#6774 of 18028 CRACK! by rochcom
Jun 07, 2002 (5:44 pm)
It finally happened. My '98's windshield was hit at the very edge on the driver's side by a stone (right around the deflector). Before you could say craaaack, it spread halfway across the windshield, directly in the driver's line of vision. Fortunately, I have full glass coverage as the result of a learning experience with a previous vehicle.The invoice says the glass came from PPG and shows a list price of $617.55. Since it was billed directly to the insurance company, there was a big discount.
Glass 253.20
Labor 45.00
Gaskets, etc. 46.20
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$371.95 with tax
It is a nice, neat installation and although the color is slightly different, it does have the graphics at the edges and looks like factory glass.
One interesting phenomenon. It has greatly cleared up visibility. Looking closely at the old glass (after only 64,000 miles), it hss wall to wall small pits, giving it a slightly frosty appearance compared to the new. It looks like the glass on my son's car with 160,000 miles on it. So, the new windshield is a welcome addition.
#6775 of 18028 1st oil change by miamihawk
Jun 07, 2002 (6:38 pm)
I have a new 02 forrester. Would I do any harm in changing the oil at 1000 miles with 5w-30 castrol full synthetic instead of waiting for 3000 miles ? What is a good oil filter to use in this vehicle ?#6776 of 18028 July Car and Driver Review by joseph50
Jun 07, 2002 (6:54 pm)
C&D outlined what it considered an overall (minimal, it seemed) upgrading in interior improvements, look and ride. Its assessment: A typical second generation vehicle -- but still the measuring stick for its class.#6777 of 18028 SOA didn't make their Donation by paisan
Jun 08, 2002 (5:52 am)
My theory is that they didn't make their donation to C&D/didn't take out enough ads. We all know it's a $ game.-mike
#6778 of 18028 Rochcom Window Cost by entropy5527
Jun 08, 2002 (6:42 am)
I recently had to replace my 98 Forester window due to sand balsting on the freeeway. The cost with out insurance for the window was $267.00 I wonder if they mark it up since you had insurance?? Every glass place asked me that question before they quoted me the price....#6779 of 18028 C&D stumped by joseph50
Jun 08, 2002 (7:12 am)
The July review indicated that it cannot understand how the 2003 can be 100 pounds heavier (stated to be 3211 lbs.) than the previous model, given the fact of lighter hood, roof rails, etc. Does anyone know the solution?#6780 of 18028 Chat by storyteller
Jun 08, 2002 (8:25 am)
Just to point out the obvious, the June Edmunds chat is about the '03 Forester. The guest is Mike Whelan, who is billed as a "Subaru Product Developer." That will be intersting. Usual time: June 20.Steve
#6781 of 18028 That doesn't make sense by rsholland
Jun 08, 2002 (8:36 am)
<< My theory is that they didn't make their donation to C&D/didn't take out enough ads. We all know it's a $ game. >>Why would any car manufacturer offer a magazine a test vehicle that wouldn't present that particular brand/model in its best possible light? As was mentioned by Varmint, C&D has no (or very little) control over what models they get for testing. I'd be very surprised if C&D "requested" a bottom-feeder Forester X (with the implied threat of being better able to "punish" Subaru) over the high-zoot XS Premium.
Bob
#6782 of 18028 That doesn't make sense by rsholland
Jun 08, 2002 (8:40 am)
<< My theory is that they didn't make their donation to C&D/didn't take out enough ads. We all know it's a $ game. >>Why would any car manufacturer offer a magazine a test vehicle that wouldn't present that particular brand/model in its best possible light? As was mentioned by Varmint, C&D has no (or very little) control over what models they get for testing. I'd be very surprised if C&D "requested" a bottom-feeder Forester X over the high-zoot XS Premium.
Bob
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