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Subaru Forester, Wagon
Feb 14, 2002 (8:51 am)
What about a used Miata with Sparco seats? I've modified the seat track, but some go as far as removing padding from the seat back, and even adjusting the accelerator pedal location.
I sat in an MR2 yesterday, and it ain't much better. It also has less storage space, if that's possible.
Why weatherband? You gotta remember the type of folks that buy Subaru. Not your average folks. Imagine working alone doing winter photography in the snow belt, that type of thing.
Funny thing is I'd rather have it on my Miata vs. my Subie, just to be able to track rain. I once got stuck with the top down and got soaked very quickly. I see clouds, but 9 times out of 10 it doesn't actually rain. This was that 1 time.
An exterior temp readout is useful because you'll know when/if bridges may get icy. With AWD, you may get overconfident. If you know it's 32 or colder, well, it's nice to know.
I guess if the price crept up, I can see how come would object. But it hasn't. The 2002 Forester costs just $300 more than the 1998 model. That's a lot less than inflation over the same period, never mind that they added about a dozen things to it.
#4618 of 18028 Outside temperature readout
Feb 14, 2002 (1:39 pm)
This may sound silly but an ambient temperature gauge was on my list of "must haves" when I was shopping for my last two cars. The first one I had was on an old '89 Ford Probe and it proved invaluable. It was part of the trip computer function and the display flashed "ice" in big letters for about 20 seconds anytime the ambient temperature dropped to 37 degrees F. or below. It impressed many passengers when they observed the display (wich was located in the middle of the dash) do that. In my Audi, when the outside temperature drops to 41 degrees F., a snowflake icon appears adjacent to the readout. I suppose the warnings are activated before the temperature drops to 32 degrees because ice can start forming on bridges, etc. even if the ambient air tempearture is above freezing. The warnings are not really necessary but they are an added frill that I was sort of hoping Subaru would have but I'm just thankful that they have now included the gauge on all their cars.
Any vehicle I purchase in the future will have to have a temperature gauge *tsk* ...pitiful.
#4619 of 18028 Temperature gauge
Feb 14, 2002 (1:55 pm)
IMO, not really that useful. After all, I've driven for over 20 years without one (till now) and have survived nicely. However, they ARE fun to have. Every now and then, you can say "Look, honey, it's down to minus 40"
Feb 14, 2002 (2:23 pm)
I too had been driving over 25 years when I bought my first car that had one back in '89. Sure, I didn't even think about it then but since then I've grown attached to them. I'm a gadget and information freak so I like things like that in cars ...give me as many gauges as possible! I miss the older cars with their oil pressure gauges, amp gauges, etc. Another thing that I find facinating in cars are the trip computers. Very few Japanese manufacturers offer these ...most (if not all) European manufacturers do. I love monitoring my mpg as I drive along or to see with the flick of a switch or button, what my average mpg or speed has been ...or how many miles I have left before running out of gas, etc. If the new Forester had a trip computer and a full set of gauges, I trade up for one in a second. Like I say, I'm pitiful. :-p
...and I know paisan is going to rebute this with his KISS argument --what can I say *sigh*
Feb 14, 2002 (2:37 pm)
Lots of things are like that - you can't imagine needing it until you've had it. Keyless is my best example. I used to think it was the laziest thing, but now that I have a kid I simply would not buy a car without it, no way.
We'd be at 40, though, not minus 40!
I had a cheap stick-on compass on my last car, and while I think it doesn't fit in with the Forester's nicer interior, I do miss it at times. I always know which general direction to head in, just not exactly which turns to take.
Maybe I'd like a Navi system after all, but that's a bit of overkill and big bucks.
Feb 14, 2002 (3:35 pm)
The nice thing about -40 (there has to be something nice about it) is that it is exactly the same in both Celsius and Faranheit. Your factoid for the day.
#4623 of 18028 Oh Contrare
Feb 14, 2002 (3:47 pm)
<- Loves guages, cause they are USEFUL For instance my '88 XT6 has a trip computer (temp/avg speed/extra odo/alarm clock/countdown milage) and full instruments (Oil Pressure/Water Temp/Volts/Fuel) The guages are important especially when a car gets older so you can monitor things like the oil pressure. Suprised yah rocco didn't I -mike
Feb 14, 2002 (4:01 pm)
I don't know if you guys in the States have this, but in Canada there is a Forester Sport that is basically an S plus moonroof, spoiler, mono paint, upgraded fabric, mesh grill and a nice auto-dimming mirror with compass.
Feb 14, 2002 (4:24 pm)
Yes, we've heard about the Canadian Forester Sport. It looks like a US Forester S with Premium package plus spoiler, mirror and grill minus the leather.
Feb 14, 2002 (5:18 pm)
um, but wouldn't KISS dictate that "idiot lights" are more effeciently useful just because of their simplicity ...if they're "on" you gotta a problem, if they're "off" you can drive like a fool... that sounds pretty "useful" to me!