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Subaru Forester, Wagon
#3720 of 18028 Engine Oil Cooler
Dec 27, 2001 (2:25 pm)
I just found out that Phase II ('99 and newer) Forester with automatic transmissions have an engine oil cooler, did you know that?
Manaul tranny models do not, and 1998 automatics do not either. That means Bob's has one, but mine and Ken's don't. Apparently Subaru figured more auto owners would tow.
iSR sells them for all other Foresters for $300, http://www.isrperformance.com/tuning.html.
They also copied my dual-cup holder idea and sell them for $26. Darlene charged $15, boy I miss her!
#3721 of 18028 I was not aware of that.
Dec 27, 2001 (2:28 pm)
I wonder why other 2.5 automatics don't have the oil cooler too?
BTW, that Forester (off road photos link at bottom) with the 2" lift kit and larger tires looks just about perfect.
Dec 27, 2001 (2:37 pm)
I'd settle for the taller springs alone. 4" lift is too much, it almost looks silly. 2" would be more than enough.
I guess the oil cooler just came with the Phase II engine/automatic combo, I dunno. I heard it will retrofit to any Subie.
I haven't had my thermostat vary at all, ever, nor has it ever burned oil, so I don't see the need, but I did find it interesting.
#3723 of 18028 They mentioned Forester only...
Dec 27, 2001 (2:41 pm)
What about Phase II Outback and Legacy automatics?
Dec 27, 2001 (2:49 pm)
Actually, the springs themselves are 2" taller, and then you have a lift kit that install under them for another 2". If you get them both, you have a 4" lift. You also have tires that look puny for the space they occupy.
I asked a while back, and Pam said they had to use spacers to fit those huge tires. The lift kit leaves the spring base in place. It actually sits on top of the spring base, and the springs on top of them.
The tires add yet another 1.1", so you have 7.5"+4"+1.1" = 12.6"!
Not really, though. The stock clearance is more like 6.8", but you still end up with 11.9".
The other thing to consider is that it's not a solid axle, so any weight in the car reduces ground clearance, as does bounding/rebounding over bumps.
Still, that's a lot of clearance!
Dec 27, 2001 (2:56 pm)
Good question, Bob, and I don't know the answer. The guy on i Club that started the discussion seemed to think that only the Forester auto has it.
Though I'm surprised, I would expect to see a tranny cooler before an engine oil cooler. I noticed Mazda includes one in their hitch package for the MPV.
Dec 27, 2001 (2:57 pm)
to my eyes—it just looks right. No longer does it look like a "California Low Rider." Maybe that's a bit too much, as you say. Who knows what it does to on-road handling. I'm sure nothing good, since the center of gravity has been substantially raised.
Maybe, as you say a compromise, somewhere in the middle. Perhaps a 1" body lift with 1" longer springs, riding on 225/60x16 tires?
Dec 27, 2001 (3:09 pm)
I think the one with whole enchilada looks like it's on stilts.
The Aussie folks say the Lovell springs are stiffer and handling stays more flat. One guy that did it all did end up rolling his, though he was off road (BTW, it held up so well, not any glass broke at all, and yes he has photos to prove it).
iSR's springs are different, though. I think those with 235/60R16 tires on my rims would make for a nice package, don't you think?
#3728 of 18028 235/60x16 tires...
Dec 27, 2001 (3:13 pm)
look good on vehicles this size. That's what's on the Grand Vitara, and is available on the Rav4 too. I hope we see this tire size on the next Forester.
Dec 27, 2001 (3:14 pm)
I also like how lifted Forester looks