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Subaru Forester, Wagon
Dec 14, 2001 (2:37 pm)
Well, I brought home my 2002 Forester last night. It's an S+ (I only spent the $$$ for the side air bags, necessary for my peace of mind after the accident). I loved my 1998, but they really have made a lot of improvements since then. Thank goodness they got rid of the computer with the constantly moving compass! That really annoyed me sometimes. And the upholstery looks better.
It has the biggest moonroof I have ever seen.
Why do they limit color choices for the S+ instead of the L? I really love that greenish gold color, but I only had 4 choices - white, red, black, or silver. What's up with that? (Actually I only had one choice, since I didn't want to wait 8 weeks for a special order.) Mine is Aspen White, which I guess is better than black when you live in TX.
Anyway, I'm happy with the car and I am happy to be a return Subaru customer.
Dec 14, 2001 (2:42 pm)
Congrats on the new purchase! I read about your accident w/the 98'....glad you and yours are still here to tell about it and no doubt able to purchase the 01'as you did. I have to say I'm a bit envious of your moonroof though.
Enjoy as I know you will.
Dec 14, 2001 (2:46 pm)
Dec 14, 2001 (6:07 pm)
Susannah -- congrats on the purchase !!
I was also vexed by the limited choice of colors for the Premium. Why do they do it ? They in fact advertise the monotone scheme on the Premium as a 'feature' -- I personally like the two tone scheme much better. I have a black -- but would hev preffered a green or even a black with the grey cladding.
anyway, we bought the premium both due to the side airbag safety and the moonroof -- you can get enough people jealous with it
Dec 14, 2001 (10:22 pm)
oil overfill can be a problem if there is enough of it. generally if its a tad bit over the cold mark there shouldn't be any problems when the engine is hot. However, excess oil can leak out and onto hot engine parts, causing thick smoke to come out of the tail pipe. And I mean ALOT of smoke, had that happen to my old Nissan, wasn't a pretty picture, the driver behind me couldn't see a darn thing past his hood.
if you mean a new washer, then yes, to be conservative. I usually replace mine every other oil change, hasn't had problem (knock on wood).
Dec 15, 2001 (1:02 am)
I had an XM satellite radio tuner installed in my Forester last Sunday. Pretty straightforward pluses and minuses for this thing....
MINUSES: The receiver/installation, etc. are EXPENSIVE! Fortunately I got Circuit City gift cards for my birthday, but it cost $249 for the Pioneer universal tuner (the XM-ready head units might have been a better choice, but then they wouldn't have worked with my factory in-dash CD changer), $79 (less $30 rebate) for the antenna, and $70 for installation. Startup is $15; $10 if you do it at their Web site.
Also, the Forester doesn't have much of a spot for the tuner mount, especially with the separate 6 CD changer. I had the tuner in front of the ashtray space, which is lower than the ideal, although still usable. The "guts" of the system were installed in the space that also contains the jack.
PLUSES: The service itself is AWESOME! It is really strong considering it is just out out of the blocks. I would say anyone (except maybe talk radio fans) will find at least one station that plays stuff they love but would never hear locally. The Comedy station (one of three) is impressive, but really raunchy, be forewarned if you have kids.....
Overall, I think this is a fully realized system, and I'm glad I got it. Once you get past the startup cost, it is well worth the money.
Dec 15, 2001 (5:39 am)
Are there monthly fees associated with it or just the startup costs?
#3589 of 18028 oil overfill, quick lube joints
Dec 15, 2001 (6:17 am)
I agree with maverick; a little oil overfill probably is not a big deal.
But a lot of excess oil used to be considered a very bad thing (don't know if it still is). Something about forcing oil past seals, etc, where it weakened things, if I heard correctly.
I once took a new car to a Jiffy Lube for an oil change; the oil capacity was 3.5 qts. I mentioned that to the "highly-trained technician" after (my bad) the fill. He just said, "four cylinder, four quarts".
And I don't trust such places to have the proper new crush washer for the drain plug, or to even care about it.
Dec 15, 2001 (8:54 am)
Yes, it costs $9.99 a month for XM (Sirus, the competition due out in February, will be $13/month but concentrate more on talk radio).
I don't find the monthly cost to be onerous because the quality is such that I probably will not buy a CD/month or so that I would've bought to play in the car. Heck, it might even be cheaper for me. The installer at Circuit City mentioned he hadn't used his car CD player at all since putting XM in his personal vehicle (and he told me this AFTER installation, so it wasn't a sales pitch).
Dec 15, 2001 (9:15 pm)
about those quick change places. I used to always use Valvoline Instant Oil Change to do all my fluid maintenances on my Nissan. After I got the Forester I got the oil changed maybe twice at my usual location, then on the third time the techs there told me they stopped doing oil changes for Foresters...not all subarus, just the Forester, saying that the last forester oil change they did took them over an hour and a half, mostly trying to get the sump guard off. Anyways, long story short, I went to another location, same company, but about a mile and a half away and they gladly did the oil change AND had the correct size washer to replace the old one, all in ~15 minutes. Oh, and no over fill either, right on the mark.
If anyone is considering using a quick change place, I would say to shop around, and find a place that is competent. there's a lot of difference between companies, or even between seperate locations of the same chain.
All else fails, do it yourself, ~15-30 minutes and you can gurantee that the washer gets changed, plus no overfill