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#2742 of 18028 Hard luck story
Sep 20, 2001 (10:23 pm)
Some of you answered a few of my questions back in December 1999 when I bought a 2000 Forester L in beautiful SilverThorn. I have loved that car and cared for it for 20 months - until last Thursday when, without a moment's anticipation - I found myself in a horrible accident on the freeway, which left my Subaru a total loss and myself, fortunatly, able to walk away virtually unscathed.
As a result,I have two sets of questions for any of you who are willing to help me think things through.
First, what happened was that another vehicle and I bumped into each other (in each other's blind spots) at about 65 mph. I lost control of the steering: I could not regain control of the car and ended up veering left across the left lane and crashing into the center divider, before bouncing off and coming to rest in the center shoulder facing the wrong way. Although I am grateful that the car protected me on impact, I wonder why I could not regain control after the other car and I bumped together (and i'm unclear who bumped who. Neither of us was making a lane change, but there was a gravel truck spewing chunks of gravel onto our windshields just in front, and it took place two mornings after last week's horrifying events). What does it mean that I lost control or that the car lost control? I was braking - but not too much - as I was on the freeway. Thoughts about what happened, and how to drive under such suddenly terrifying conditions are appreciated.
Second - I want to get another Subaru - but i'm not sure whether to replace the Forester with another (the new model probably, as second hand 2000 5 speed Ls are hard to find where I live in the Bay Area) - or whether to go for the Impreza 2.5 or the OBS. My budget is limited to what the insurance is giving me plus a little bit more - so I'm not sure I can get a new vehicle again, although the 2.9 financing is an option. I loved the Forester but I'm thinking of getting a model that travels lower to the ground. Those of you with experience of more than one model please speak up or refer me to earlier posts (I have been scanning this board, and OBS too).
Thank you very much in advance for your thoughts.
#2743 of 18028 Subaru Forrester vs. Isuzu Trooper
Sep 21, 2001 (2:40 am)
I have a 99 Trooper. Love it but gas expenses are high. What is the overall Forrester quality and how many years of service can you get out of Subaru?
#2744 of 18028 Subarus are good
Sep 21, 2001 (4:17 am)
But I'd say that the Trooper if maintained will get you about 50K-100K more miles, mostly because its more heavy duty components than the subies. The TOD on the trooper works similar to the AWD of the subaru, except it has a RWD bias rather than a front wheel bias. I'm both a subaru and trooper owner and love em both. Trooper for trips, towing, hauling, off-roading. Subaru for around town, spirited driving, light off-roadings, etc.
#2745 of 18028 Rachel, I'm sorry to hear of your accident...
Sep 21, 2001 (4:53 am)
Since my wife and I own a 2000 OB Wagon and we just bought a Forester plus we also test drove the OB sedan, I'll share my thoughts (for what it's worth).
Both the OB wagon and OB sedan have a longer wheelbase than the Forester. This means a bit more road stability and more comfortable ride than the Forester. Sitting in the driver's seat and driving the OB sedan compared to our OB wagon was amazingly similar. If I hadn't looked in the back mirror, I could have sworn I was driving my OB wagon. The sedan has a very smooth and refined ride. When driving, it also "feels" heavier than the Forester.
Keep in mind though, I believe the standover height of all 3 vehicles is the same IIRC. If you're looking for an AWD vehicle lower to the ground, you may want to check out the Legacy sedan. My sister-in-law owns a 2000 L and she loves it. AND, it seems to have a bit more "pep" than the OB.
Again, sorry to hear about your accident but glad to hear that you were not injured.
#2746 of 18028 forester transmission
Sep 21, 2001 (7:28 am)
There is a noticeable jerk in my '98 Forester at 10 m.p.h. when the automatic transmission shifts into 2nd gear. Has anyone else had this problem?
Sep 21, 2001 (8:08 am)
I too have a noticeable jerk in my Forester, but if I scrunch down in the seat I'm not quite as noticable.
Sep 21, 2001 (8:21 am)
Doh, Dave beat me to the same joke....lol... must be a Peterson thing...
#2750 of 18028 Should I dump this car?
Sep 21, 2001 (8:30 am)
My wife and I just bought a 1999 Subaru Forester S with manual transmission. The car has 30,000 miles and is still under bumper-to-bumper warranty until January, plus powertrain two years after that. When we bought the car we were shown repair records that indicated that the rear crank seal had been replaced to repair an oil leak, the clutch had been replaced, the water pump had been replaced, and the brake rotors were recut. I thought that was a lot of work at the time (my 5-yr. Impreza had never been the Subaru doctor), but we bought the car anyway...what else could go wrong, right? Plus, it's covered. Well, after 450 miles, 5 quarts of oil, and a failed inspection, two cylinder heads are being replaced by Subaru (sounds close to a engine rebuild to me). Subaru dealer gave us a nice rental car free of charge, and we should have our Forester back in a couple day/weeks! Should we cut our losses and dump this car? Or just figure...nothing else could go wrong, right?
Sep 21, 2001 (8:39 am)
Glad to hear you weren't badly hurt (I'll bet you're still shaking though). Here are my two shillings worth: The Forester is a super car (I love mine too), but it has a bit more body roll than an Outback (and much more than a standard Legacy). The Imprezas are also very flat and stable in turns, although the OB Sport feels more like an Outback in that respect. So, if stability is a concern, but you want loads of cargo space, the Legacy wagon would seem an excellent (and affordable) choice. I wish I had some sage advice about "why" you lost control, but in similar experiences I was always too busy praying to take notes. My guess is that, like most of us, you simply over-corrected. When your vehicle starts to take off in a direction you don't intend, the natural inclination is to correct it NOW, AND HARD! Unfortunately, inertia comes around in its own sweet time and by the time it does, the steering wheel has probably been turned 30 degrees more than needed, which sends you off in another unintended direction (and perhaps sideways as well). My first experience with that came when I was 19 and hit a patch of black-ice. Seconds later (seemed like hours) I was facing south in the north-bound lane; big trucks on both sides of me. Reacting to the unexpected is, I guess, the name of the game. Actually, Its precisely because anything can happen on the road that I drive Subarus, and only Subarus.