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Nov 05, 2005 (1:57 pm)
I was wondering if you still had the pdf described below? I'm running into a problem with my current CD changer and thought of bidding on a new one on Ebay...but directions to install it would be a GREAT help!
#14307 of 17116 sharksoup - CD player by speterson1 Apr 12, 2004 (7:39 am)
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I had a similar problem with the single-disc player on our 2001 Forester. That behavior marked the beginning of the end. Shortly after the behavior you described, the laser became very sensitive, skipping on very minor bumps in the road, and then shortly after that it would not read discs at all and just spat them back out after insertion.
We were past our warranty to get it fixed for free, but I am very happy now after purchasing a Subaru 6-CD changer off of eBay. In fact, I just searched and here's a link to the exact same type of stereo http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3293&item=3089271785&rd=1. If you're lucky you can get one really cheap, much cheaper than you could get from the Subaru dealer. Installed ours myself (with a very helpful step-by-step pdf file which I could e-mail you if you needed) shortly after Christmas and it's worked flawlessly so far.
#17118 of 18028 bad cold weather MPG in 2001 Forester
Nov 05, 2005 (2:09 pm)
My "normal" MPG in my 2001 Forester is about 24, with normally fairly short drives. Last winter, it dropped all the way down to 17! The dealer was clueless, but replaced the fuel and air filters to no avail. The spark plugs had been changed earlier in the year (Feb 2004). MPG over the summer was back to mid-20s. Now it's cooling off, and it's down to about 20. With the price of gas, I'm not really looking forward to 17 MPG! Any suggestions? Only thing I've read that seemed applicable was the possibility of a dirty thermostat, but I don't know if that would only affect it in cold weather. I've had the O2 sensor replaced twice, but there doesn't really seem to be anything noticeable with driving it. Maybe a little sluggish on acceleration, but nothing dramatic. Thanks for any help!
#17119 of 18028 Suburu Outback
Nov 05, 2005 (5:27 pm)
I am considering buying a good used Suburu Outback, but have heard rumours implying they are prone to roll-over or near roll-over. Can anyone give me some feed-back??
#17120 of 18028 Re: Suburu Outback [boots2]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Nov 05, 2005 (6:08 pm)
The Outback wagons that have been tested all garnered 4 star rollover ratings -- a risk of rollover between 10% and 20%. Some attribute the scores to the boxer engine that sits lower in the frame than most cars. (Safercar.gov)
As far as I know, no SUV has ever gotten better than 4 stars; the '05 Outback came in at 15%. I think the best SUV rating for '05 is at 14% (Freestyle & Pacifica).
But please continue in the Subaru Legacy/Outback discussion (this one focuses on Foresters).
#17121 of 18028 Re: bad cold weather MPG in 2001 Forester [randysch]
Nov 05, 2005 (8:16 pm)
Did you try a different brand of gas? Any check engine lights since last winter? I would replace the thermostat for starters and if that doesn't help, check the air temp (MAF) sensor.
#17122 of 18028 Re: bad cold weather MPG in 2001 Forester [samiam_68]
Nov 06, 2005 (5:19 am)
No check engine lights, and I do mix brands (anywhere I can save a penny or two a gallon these days!). Taking it in for 60K workup Tues, I'll mention the thermostat and MAF sensor. Thanks for the suggestions!
#17123 of 18028 Re: bad cold weather MPG in 2001 Forester [randysch]
Nov 06, 2005 (8:30 am)
Search this board for "winter gas."
My state (Pa) uses it, I am convinced. Every year my 2001 drops in mpg in October, and gets back to normal sometime in the spring.
#17124 of 18028 Re: bad cold weather MPG in 2001 Forester [randysch]
Nov 06, 2005 (9:00 am)
Randy, just some quick thoughts.
Was this a one tank calculation? If so then are many variables that could have led to this one time aberation.
Try topping off again, set the trip odometer to zero, run the tank down to less than 1/4, top off again, then recalcute MPG from the odometer and gallon used data. To really get a good average this empty and top off cycle should occur at least 3 times.
In my 03 X I notice about a 2 MPG drop with winter gas.
Switching gas brands could maybe cause the EPU to re-think
itself to your detriment.
#17125 of 18028 Re: CEL and Subaru (mis)engineering [logtrail]
Nov 06, 2005 (11:47 am)
John makes a good point, a large majority of people who post do so only when they have a problem. Therefore us "apologists" are merely trying to keep things in perspective. That and we honestly believe that Subarus are reliable
I've had two Foresters (01 & 04) with over 100k miles between them. I've had a total of two CELs, both within the first year on the 01 and both were due to the same batch of faulty oxygen sensors (made by an outside supplier). For perspective, I've had more CELs on low-mileage (non-Subaru) rental vehicles during the same timeframe.
The word inordinate means "exceeding reasonable limits."
Yes but how does one define "reasonable"? If out of 150 owners, 50 of them posted with CEL issues then 33% would certainly qualify as "inordinate". But since we have no way of knowing whether there are 150 or 15,000 owners, there's no basis for determining what constitutes a reasonable amount.
Nov 06, 2005 (2:39 pm)
I have had my forester for one year now and I am happy to report that I have had no problems so far.I get my oil changed every 3000 miles (I am of the old school I guess) and I do put on many miles in a year. My 1 year old forester has 25,000 miles and in that time I have had only the routine maintenance. I have the tires rotated every 7000 miles and I have seen no uneven wear yet. I have enjoyed driving the car and have gotten used to it's quirks. I will never be able to open all the car locks on the first try (I always push the button the wrong way). I am challenged by the limitations of the CD player and in this day and age of outrageous gas prices, I will never get good enough gas mileage (I average around 23 mpg). I will however get the little lift that I feel driving the car. I have fun. I like the way the car looks and I love the way it handles. I feel that I made a good choice (debated between the RAV4 and the CRV). Just wanted to let everyone know.