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#15884 of 18028 A Fond Farewell to My Forester
Jan 02, 2005 (9:25 am)
I bought a 2003 XS 5-speed two years ago. I racked up 60,000 miles, and traded it in on Friday.
I had a generally positive experience, but need a bit more back seat room, plus an automatic for my teenage daughter to drive.
The infamous PISTON-SLAP, which impacts some 30% - 40% of Subarus, was finally fixed under warranty at 58,500 miles. It was a four-day service stop that resulted in a basically rebuilt engine.
However, I can say that the BEST PART of the Subaru Forester was the incredible retained value!
I bought it two years ago for $21,000, on Dec 31, 2002; put on 60,000 miles, and received $14,000 as a trade-in value on Dec 31, 2004! NOTE: I did trade it in, the dollars would clearly have been higher if I sold it myself, but I just didn't want to mess with that!
I used about 1/3 of the life of the car, and paid about 1/3 of the value! That's paying for the USE, with little penalty of depreciation!
As a comparison, if I'd paid $21,000 for a Ford or Pontiac, and put on 60,000 miles in those two years... that Ford or Pontiac would be worth about 1/3 of what I'd paid.
In a strange way, the strong retained value of the Subaru made it possible for me to sell it and make out just fine.
THANK YOU to everyone on this board. I was here before I bought the car, and periodically throughout the two years of ownership. The Forester is a good, tough little car that was unstoppable through any Maine snow I challenged!
Best of luck to all of you!
#15885 of 18028 Re: A Fond Farewell to My Forester [mjsnd80]
Jan 02, 2005 (9:53 am)
Cool! Thanks for sharing your experience. What did you end up buying as a new car?
#15886 of 18028 Re: A Fond Farewell to My Forester [mjsnd80]
Jan 03, 2005 (5:27 am)
30-40% of Subaru's experience Piston Slap? I was under the impression that the majority of these problems were related to the Phase I engines and those of us w/ Phase II's needn't worry.
Is there anything we can do to ward this problem off? I'm about 250 miles into my break-in and I'm babying the hecke out of my ride ...
#15887 of 18028 Buying New x advice
Jan 03, 2005 (9:19 am)
Buying new x appreciate any advice. Getting bare bones however will consider any suggestions. Is extended warranty necessary? Would be better to get bike rake from bike store or dealer?
Jan 03, 2005 (9:45 am)
Some of the Subaru racks are actually made by Yakima. Personally, I would order the racks online -- you will save a lot of money. That is true whether you order the Subaru racks from an online Subaru dealer or get the Yakima racks. Since it's an easy install, there is no point paying dealer markup.
#15889 of 18028 power steering fluid...
Jan 03, 2005 (4:46 pm)
I don't see it in the maintenance schedule, anyone have thoughts on whether it needs changing or not?
I am half way through my 30k, the front and rear diffies went fine (except the front, refilling is a PITA unless you have the right size funnel and extension tube--I managed to drip some 90W on the exhaust pipe, it still stinks when hot). Bleed brakes was a piece of cake, thanks Subaru for putting the bleeder valves right out in the open ("just like spit from a trombone" says my 10 year old). Also thanks for putting the clutch slave cylinder with easy underhood access, even though it took me 10 minutes to find it. So far, 3 1/2 hrs later, I still need to do the spark plugs.
#15890 of 18028 Re: A Fond Farewell to My Forester [jopopsy]
Jan 03, 2005 (6:29 pm)
PISTON-SLAP. My service manager told me it wasn't quite half of the Subarus do it... more like 30% or 40%.
It involves the sizing of the alloy pistons inside the cyl sleeves; and if they are too "loose" at cold start-up, they wiggle inside, and make a KNOCK sound for the first 5 or 10 minutes.
The fix on my 2003 XS was new cyls and new lining sleeves. It was a major, four-day job. And Subaru of America paid every dime. They could not have been nicer about it!
= = =
My first thought on a replacement for the Forester was to move UP to an Outback, but I was afraid of more piston slap; because the non-turbo is the same 2.5 engine. PLUS, when I sat in the back seat of the Outback, I was shocked to find it no larger than their "smaller" Forester. Tiny back there, in fact!
Instead, I went down the street and bought a CRV-EX. Very nice vehicle, with tons more room inside. The gas mileage is almost as good as the Forester. And I hope to find the "Real-Time" four-wheel drive system is up the the task of a Maine winter.
(Tough to compare, because the Forester was UNSTOPPABLE in the snow!)
Best of luck to all of you!
Jan 04, 2005 (10:15 am)
To the brain trust,
Got the following quotes from dealers thru Edmunds for a 2005 XT Premium:
(ePrice): $25,453 & $24,959
In lay men terms what does this mean...
What kind of questions should I be asking after the delaer has sent me the quotes...
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
#15892 of 18028 Re: Price Quotes [almost buying]
Jan 04, 2005 (11:27 am)
What options is the most obvious one In addition, is that their "out the door" price? The basic idea is that in order to accurately compare quotes you have to make sure you're doing an apples to apples comparison.
#15893 of 18028 Re: A Fond Farewell to My Forester [mjsnd80]
Jan 04, 2005 (11:32 am)
Yep you can't beat the CRV's best in class rear seat room.
Regarding piston-slap... I think the service manager is guilty of exaggerating. Certainly piston-slap occurs more than it should in Subarus but were it really up near 40%, I don't think Subaru would still be in business.