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Subaru Forester, Wagon
#13795 of 18028 Prius or Forester
Jan 26, 2004 (11:38 am)
The teflon cladding on the lower half of the Forester is awesome! Read back about magical stories of how dents fixed themselves. Unless you live in utopia-ville, they'll save you from a few dings, for sure.
I really like the Prius and won't say anything bad about it. More people should consider hybrids.
Forester offers AWD and decent room in a fun, affordable, safe package. You do get a full size spare, more towing, more payload, more roof rack capacity, and a lot more cargo space. The X/XS are quicker, the XT much quicker.
Tint: I have 35% all around, but none on the windshield.
Most common problem? #1 would be the rear wheel bearings, but note that only the 1998-2001 models are affected. In 2002 they started using the Legacy bearings, which have been fine.
2nd most common problem is probably the head gaskets. Subaru has extended the warranty on those to 8 years/100k miles, and they've been covering them under the powertrain warranty all along.
What I can say is that if you join the Edmunds.com Subaru Crew, you will be taken care of. We have SoA representation and ask around, they definitely take good care of us. Subies tend to be reliable, but if yours isn't, you'll have the tools here to assist you in getting that corrected.
Mike: simple, they forgot the turbo in your model. Clearly you have to go back and get that fixed ASAP.
Jan 26, 2004 (12:50 pm)
...is a very appealing package. It would not meet my requirements, but it would definitely be worth considering for my wife if Toyota brought out an AWD version (highly unlikely). In the hills where we live, front-wheel-drive just doesn't cut it when it snows.
#13797 of 18028 Hybrid Highlander
Jan 26, 2004 (12:53 pm)
Will offer a blend of both if you can afford it.
Interestingly, I read it'll be FWD or AWD. In the FWD version, engine + electric motor power the front axle. In the AWD version, the rear axle gets power from a 2nd electric motor, but not the engine. There is no driveshaft going to the rear.
So it should be efficient, but the AWD will be only part-time.
I found it interesting because that means the AWD hybrid will *not* be based on the regular AWD Highlander, which has a VC and full-time AWD.
#13798 of 18028 AWD Highlander hybrid
Jan 26, 2004 (1:09 pm)
I find the fact that it doesn't have a driveshaft to be really intriguing. I've felt for a long time that if the rear driveshaft can be eliminated (via use of electric motor), it will open up all sorts of new packaging/model opportunities.
For example, it would now be possible to have a mid-engine AWD Porsche Boxster, with an electric motor driving the front wheels. I've also read that the all-new upcoming Acura RL may have AWD, with electrically driven rear wheels (and 300 HP).
Jan 26, 2004 (1:28 pm)
in a different direction. I've often thought that the best motorhome would be a front-wheel-driver (like the aerodynamic GM models a decade or two ago, based on the front-drive Toronado/ElDorado driveline). The nose-heavy weight distribution would provide better directional stability in crosswinds, and better traction than driving the rear wheels with a front-engine layout. But - if you want to get to those more inaccessible places, how about in-hub electric motors at the rear, maybe good for no more than 10mph. They would engage only when front-wheel slip is detected, and would provide the extra traction to avoid getting bogged down.
Jan 26, 2004 (1:42 pm)
The possibilities of AWD, sans driveshaft, are almost endless. Think of the possibilities for commercial big rigs! This is not limited to cars or SUVs by any means.
BTW, that old GMC motorhome with the Toronado drivetrain was way ahead of its time. Unfortunately, like many GM vehicles of that era, suffered from poor engineering and poor execution. The idea was spot on, however.
#13801 of 18028 Through the road AWD
Jan 26, 2004 (1:54 pm)
Subaru could pursue this, but still, it would feel like FWD most of the time, and I prefer full-time systems.
I guess I'd be willing to try it, though, if other advantages proved worthy.
Jan 26, 2004 (1:58 pm)
Only if the rear wheels were operating on demand. If the electric motors (front & rear) operate all the time, it wouldn't feel like a FWD car. At least I don't think it would.
Jan 26, 2004 (2:01 pm)
I guess it depends on how much power is sent to that motor and how often it's used. The Pruis does run on the electric motor alone at times. I don't think it could push the rear axle *all* times, though.
We'll see. So far we've only seen previews of how it works.
Jan 26, 2004 (2:35 pm)
It looks an interesting concept. The Prius looks very attractive as a commuter option but I wonder how it would go for longer trips. The Highlandder option looks even more appealing. However, I do wonder how they will get on for electric motor sealing etc. given that AWD is occassionally used for fording streams etc. Probably got it covered but it will be fascinating to see.