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1070 messages, Last post on Jun 04, 2009 at 10:34 AM
You are in the SUVs Forum. Your Hosts are steve_ & tidester
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Replying to: seahorse1 (Dec 02, 2007 10:33 am) |
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City, 31.5 MPG Highway  68 MPH, 33.3 MPG
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Someone in Edmunds message moderation please make separate topics for real full size SUVs and toys, like Ford Escape. Escape should not even be mentioned under SUV topics as it is not much bigger than a Toyota Corolla. Make topics for 8, 6 and 4 cylinder SUVs separate so we don't need to be reading smart a.. comments/posts of small toy truck drivers under the real full size SUV topics. In my opinion Ford Escape is not a SUV. It is like raised up Dodge nitro. Arrie
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Replying to: arrie (Sep 04, 2008 6:12 pm)  Nevertheless, we are open to comments from others regarding a split. tidester, host SUVs and Smart Shopper
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Replying to: tidester (Sep 04, 2008 7:57 pm)  A friends Expedition with it's 5.4 liter V8 simply will not go some of the places that our much smaller 4WD CR-V will, with it's 2.4L 4 cylinder. Our CR-V won't do the same job as our son's Grand Cherokee, with it's very sophisticated 4WD system. To say the largest are true SUV and the smaller are simply toys is like saying only Great Danes and other dogs that size are "true dogs" while the smaller Pit Bull, Rottweiler, and German Shepherds are not.  True SUVs were designed to extend to family haulers the ability to carry more people and gear, more comfortably on and off road than units such as the Jeep Wrangler and a couple of others. Emphasis on Utility. Although Jeep introduced some earlier "SUV" models, before the phrase "Sport Utility Vehicle" became popular, the Cherokee was by far the most popular. It's drive train was pretty much identical to that of the Wrangler sized Jeeps. Many came with 4 cylinder engines. A big roaring V8 doesn't make a vehicle more of an SUV. Smaller size doesn't make one a "Toy". It is simply more efficient at certain jobs. Maybe we need to toss out anything that is not a 4WD, instead of discriminating because of size.  Kip |
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Replying to: arrie (Sep 04, 2008 6:12 pm) I suspect you drive a large body-on-frame SUV. I'm a bit surprised you compared a Ford product to a Dodge product. 
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Replying to: tidester (Sep 04, 2008 7:57 pm) Nevertheless, we are open to comments from others regarding a split. " Well, here is my comment. When the manufacturers stop calling them SUVs, then people should stop posting here. The auto companies now use the term CUV when it is in fact a Crossover, but they still call my Escape (and the CR-V, and the RAV4, as examples) SUVs. I suppose you could make three discussions: small, medium, and large SUV gas mileage. That would be fine with me, and might narrow the comparisons for people interested in mileage. I almost asked that person who complained if he/she drove a huge SUV by him/herself, and was getting the usual 10 MPG city / 16 highway. But I chose not to pose that question... 
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Replying to: stevedebi (Sep 05, 2008 9:10 am) Yes, I drive a full size Tahoe. In my opinion it is waste of time and topic space to compare 4 cylinder "toy trucks" to full size trucks under the same topic. We all know, I hope, what for example Ford Escape use a lot less fuel than a Tahoe. Why talk about them under the same topic. I always thought that this forum site is meant to be helping the users. It would help much better if there was only full size SUVs under one topic, middle size under another and small ones under their own so people interested of hearing others of what they have done to help fuel mileage could benefit from it. Now it is just a big mess under one topic and all I see the small toy truck drivers bragging about their 30+ MPG performance on those 4 cylinder engines. Go pull a 20 ft trailer with it and see how it does... Tools and toys are separate issues. Myself I would be interested hearing from other full size SUV drivers what they have done for gas mileage improvement or what they think about it but current "Feel free to participate" topic does not serve for this. It would be very good if there was Full, Mid and Small size SUV topics, i.e. for 8, 6 and 4 cylinder engines. Arrie
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Replying to: arrie (Sep 05, 2008 12:15 pm) Sorry but that's the plain truth. |
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Replying to: arrie (Sep 05, 2008 12:15 pm) For the sake of comparison. >"It would help much better if there was only full size SUVs under one topic, middle size under another and small ones under their own so people interested of hearing others of what they have done to help fuel mileage could benefit from it." For those like yourself, there is a Tahoe Real World MPG forum. If that isn't good enough, you can start your own thread within this forum or even start a new forum. You could entitle it Real world MPG for Large Gas Guzzling SUVs Only. You could go even farther and in the first post list the Vehicles and equipment that are allow to participate. Go for it. Kip
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