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Lexus LX 470, SUV
Nov 04, 2003 (6:23 pm)
the LX 470 and I'm in a similar situation as you.. my wife's RX is getting cramped fast.. I am seriously considering an LX 470 purchase later in the year BUT... I just stumbled upon the 2004 Toyota Sienna.. yes it's a minivan but the interior of this beast is 100% Lexus! Plus the Sienna XLE Limited (with Navigation option) comes with MOST of the goodies that the LX 470 and the LS430 have -- and it tops out at $40K with all those goodies!
With the 40K Limited Sienna you get power rear liftgate, fold flat third row, power side doors (both sides) rearview camera, parking assist, HID lights, rear entertainment system.. the list for the Sienna goes on and on.. even the '03 LX 470 falls short when it comes to many of these options.. and off-roading is not in my future so the Sienna option makes most sense for me, but that LX 470 LOOKS so classy inside and out... arrrh!
SO what the heck should I do? Spend 60K on the smaller, less-optioned LX (but absolutely gorgeous inside and out) or Spend 40K for the Sienna with more features, more room, and but a less desirable mini-van look??
I'm going to looking VERY closely at these two vehicles and suggest you do the same... either way, these Toyota folks sure seem to make a fine product!!
#925 of 1476 To gteach26 - Why not some of the larger SUVs
Nov 06, 2003 (8:13 am)
Thanks for the response. Are you looking at any of the larger SUVs instead of the LX (or Sienna minvan). If its a space concern, I would think we should be looking at Sienna, Yukon Denali, Suburban, extended Escalade, etc. Have you looked at any of these or are you simply sold on Toyota/Lexus? Why? Why not? Thx.
#926 of 1476 david188
Nov 06, 2003 (8:29 am)
I own a Lexus GS and am a huge fan of the LX and Landcruiser. We have two small kids and while we will eventually buy one of the two, we decided on a loaded Tahoe. The choice was obvious for many reasons. First, the car stickered for $45k and we were able to get it for $35k. It is truly loaded and has many features that you cannot get on the Landcruiser, like memory seats, XM radio, built in phone, 2nd row bucket seats, and more. It also has an upgraded suspension package (Autoride). The car is surprisingly quiet and the ride is hard to believe for a car that we only paid $35k for. With all the money we saved, we put in a great DVD system which is a thousand times better than anything you can find from the factory.
Don't get me wrong, we will own a Lexus suv in the future, but with two small kids, spilled drinks, strollers, french fries, etc. I couldn't see spending so much for a relatively small suv when we could get a bigger more feature rich Tahoe that I don't have to worry about thrashing. Trust me, I did a ton of thinking and research and was literally hours from special ordering a 2004 Landcruiser.
Just my opinion, take it for what it's worth.
Nov 06, 2003 (8:41 am)
I currently drive an '03 Lincoln Navigator Ultimate and am very happy with it and can recommend it to you.
The third row seat fits any size person comfortably and it folds flat when not in use. It also has HID lights, a power liftgate, power running boards, and a VERY classy interior. You can also get it with a voice-activated Navigation System and rear entertainment system -- all for the low 50K range. I have the second row bench seat and the middle portion slides up so that my little angel can be up close to us.. also, my second car seat (it is on the way and due next summer!!) will fit just fine in that second row.
With the ease of that fold-flat third row, carrying lots of stuff in the back is not an issue. With the third row in use you have limited space but enough to fit a stroller, and a few bags.
If mileage matters to you (it stinks on this puppy) I'm only getting around 11-12mpg. If you want to talk more about my Navigator experiences let me know over in the Navigator board and we'll chat some more.
Overall though, I still like the overall Lexus package better (in the LX 470) but the 470 is smaller, with less features (no fold flat third row, no HID's, less Room) but it counters with a supposedly a rock solid, trouble free reputation whereas my Lincolns (I've had two Navigators) have had a few glitches here and there.
However, rumors around here are that Lexus is coming out with a larger, more feature-packed LX soon.. if they do it right that truck will blow everyone away.. including me!!
#928 of 1476 2004 LX 470 interior lighting
Nov 07, 2003 (6:28 pm)
I just bought a 2004 LX 470 and I'm having trouble with the interior lighting. There are 3 sets of overhead lights: one over the front seats by the sunroof controls called "map lights" , one over the middle seats, and one over the rear seats. The lights over both the middle and the rear seats can be set to go on when any doors are opened. The front overhead lights don't seem to have this setting. This makes the front quite dark. I checked with the dealer (Lexus of Manhattan) and they told me there's now way to change this. Has anyone experienced this or is the dealer wrong. I find it hard to believe that Lexus would forget that front overhead lights should go on when the doors open.
#929 of 1476 LehighLexus-shame on you!
Nov 10, 2003 (3:01 am)
What an un-Lexus like response! I currently drive a BMW 5-series wagon. I LOVE the LS430. Stopped by to drive it when it first arrived (while only 1 year into our BMW lease). Stopped back a year later to drive it again (our selling professional was no longer with the dealership, but your sales mgr pulled up our customer info from the computer file). The new selling professional missed on two major points. One, I asked that he call me when it snows so I could drive the LS in the snow (he never did). Two, I asked about the availability of the Euro-tuned suspension. He got back to me and stated that they no longer offer it in the car. I took that on his word. My mistake. Either he didn't know, didn't care, or since the dealership didn't have one on the lot, he thought he'd attempt to sell around it.
After going round and round, my wife and I decided that maybe we should instead replace our Toyota Land Cruiser with the LX470. Our Toyota service experience left us less than thrilled, and LV Lexus' service department has an excellent reputation.
As you can clearly see in my previous post, I was stating numbers for purchase based upon my research from this and other msg bds. I am not so misguided that I would e-mail every Lexus dealer in the US to get price quotes. But since I have been to your dealership and expressed great interest in your products, I would have thought SOMEONE might have a clue that I was interested in buying a car from your dealership. I have no interest in purchasing a car from the West Coast. But if $6000 over invoice is the lowest price available, it certainly makes more sense.
At one time in a previous life I worked on your side of the desk in auto sales. So I can appreciate your perspective. That's why when I find a dealer that I like, I don't mind paying a bit more for the vehicle. Especially for peace of mind and a no-hassle experience. And I tip my sales people - well. That's why instead of getting the LS, we opted to get another BMW from Daniels in Allentown.
So before you try to attack me - again - or woefully attempt to defend your "come in for the best price" theory, carefully look at how my previous experience AT your dealership and the continuing experience here on line is winning me over (and I'm quite sure many others) so well.
BTW - I didn't confuse e-mail price quotes. Your selling professional called me with the quote of $6000 over.
#930 of 1476 "What an unlexus like response"
Nov 10, 2003 (6:15 am)
I guess I missed the literary memo. It's ok for you to stereotype me as the "typical salesmen" but not alright for me to stereotype you as the "typical buyer". You obviously began taking shots at me, since you didn't enjoy your time here. You are one of few. But as I recall, I never helped you on the lot. I never gave you a quote. I never told you I was going to call you and didn't. And as far as "woefully attempting" to defend our product, I do not need to. We have 7 cars on our lot that are not sold. That must mean, somewhere along the line, that there are many people who disagree with you. I don't really understand what I said to made you flare up like a hemorrhoid. I was trying to assist others, but maybe I was misunderstood.
Nov 17, 2003 (11:57 am)
Has anyone heard of any news regarding the remodeling of the LX or the addtion of another Lexus SUV to compete with the Infiniti QX56 or Lincoln Navigator?
Seems to me like the GX will compete well with the midsize SUV, the RX does a great job with the compact SUV, but the current LX is not even close to being the same size as the much larger FULL SIZE suvs like QX56 or Navigator.
Not even the NON-luxurious full size Sequoia compares in size to the QX56 or other large SUVs.
I heard Toyota will stop selling the Landcruiser since the sales is so bad. By the way, I think it is ridiculous how they can take a $60K Landcruiser and stick some fake woodtrim in it. For $60K, it should be a lot more luxurious. I guess that's why it's not selling well.
#932 of 1476 lehighlexus CPO question
Nov 20, 2003 (12:18 am)
Hopefully, my question will dissipate some of the negative energy out there?!? I'm looking for a CPO LX470. How much bargaining room is there? I found a '00 with 20k miles and an asking price of $46k. Thanks in advance.
#933 of 1476 CPO Pricing
Nov 20, 2003 (7:21 pm)
Answering my own question. I've found a number of CPO and non-certified LXs with online prices that are about $5k over what they advertise in the classified section of the LA Times for the exact same vehicle. Maybe there is even more room. I'm going to try to find out...