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Lexus LX 470, SUV
#633 of 1474 TRAC came in 2000
Nov 30, 2002 (8:20 am)
For 2000, Lexus has added Vehicle Skid Control (VSC) with Brake Assist and a traction control system (TRAC) to the LX470. The VSC detects wheel slippage in any conditions, and uses the brakes to keep the truck going in the direction it's pointed. The Brake Assist system is available in other Toyota and Lexus vehicles, and gives an extra boost to the brakes during emergency applications. It may seem redundant to have VSC and traction control, but TRAC goes beyond the brake applications of VSC, using the throttle as well. The result is similar to the effect that a limited-slip differential would provide. TRAC and VSC also work together to make the LX470 easy to control when the going gets slick, which will be much appreciated on many a snowy ski lodge slope.
What's New for 2001
The LX 470 finally adds the all-important optional DVD-based navigation system (and if you turn down the nav, you get a compass on the rearview mirror). The optional Nakamichi audio system is gone in favor of an optional nine-speaker Mark Levinson system. The standard audio system is enhanced with an Automatic Sound Levelizer (ASL). Last year's optional wood and leather trim on the steering wheel and shift knob is now a standard feature. New security features include a key card immobilizer and a free-wheel key cylinder that prevents people from opening the door with anything other than the LX 470 key. Second-row passengers will benefit from child seat anchors and improved cupholders in the rear of the center console. The standard alloy wheels have a new surface treatment, and chrome wheels are optional. The fuel cap now has a tether to appease the absent-minded. Two new exterior colors will be offered - Mystic Sea Opalescent and Blue Vapor Metallic.
#634 of 1474 space comparison lx 470 vs ls400
Nov 30, 2002 (9:30 am)
I have the ls400 now and with the addition of my twins this year would like to get a new vehicle. The lx470 doesn't seem to have much more if any cargo space than my sedan unless I"m missing something. In fact, it might be a little less useful space even with the 3rd seat folded up. What am I missing?
#635 of 1474 space comparison
Nov 30, 2002 (10:03 am)
The LS 400/430 gives better rear space when considering just the front and rear seat. The advantage of the LX is the third row and that's it. The LS will be more comfortable if just viewing the first two rows. But if you have kids over 6 or 7 they will want to sit in the third row of the LX.
I have both the LX470 and LS430.
Nov 30, 2002 (11:22 am)
ljflx, you offer an interesting perspective as an owner of both the LX and LS430. I will be purchasing a new vehicle in 6 months and am considering the LX,LS and Navigator. I have a one year old now (1 car seat) and expect to have another baby (another car seat) within the next two years. I like the idea of getting a used 430 ultralux for much less than a new 470.. BUT won't two car seats be a pain for the LS? Have you (or anyone else out there) had car seat experiences with both the LX and the LS? My current thinking is that the truck would be easier to load the kids in and out of vs. bending down to put them in the car. Also, would a third person (grandma) fit next to the car seats in these vehicles? THANKS!
#637 of 1474 Is TRAC in 2000 same as ATRAC in 2001?
Nov 30, 2002 (3:02 pm)
Is TRAC and "offroad Advance TRAC" the same or different? I know that the traction control system in Tundra is controlled by a 16-bit processor, and the Advance TRAC system in current LandCruiser, 4Runner and Sequoia is controlled by a 32-bit processor. Is there any difference between the TRAC system in 2000 LX470 vs. the one in 2001 model year? Any change in hardware or software? Thanks
#638 of 1474 gteach26
Nov 30, 2002 (4:23 pm)
Either vehicle will do just fine for the two car seats. The LS430 will be more spacious for a third person to sit in the back next to your two car seats. Getting children out of the car seats is about the same in either vehicle. When they are under two years old the LX470 is better, over two - the LS400/430 works better in my experience. But the differences aren't all that major.
I'd base my decision more on what the physical needs of your driving are and any gas milage requirements you may be looking for. For example do you want the SUV for the snow, heavy hauling or maybe just to load some big items into from the stores (TV's etc). It's amazing how much stuff you can put into the LX470 with the third row folded up and the second row folded down. On the other hand it gets a pretty steady 16mpg vs. 23-24mpg on the LS430. Remember also that the LX470 is large and it's not fun to back out of parking spaces particularly if a car seat partially obstructs your view. If you go that route (or the Navigator) you'll find yourself always looking to park so that you can pull right out rather than back out. You can forget those tight spots near the mall entrances. Lastly my LX470 doesn't have a tether holder whereas the LS430 does.
I can't speak for the Navigator but the LX or LS are at the head of their classes in my opinion so you can't go wrong either way. The LX ride is silky smooth (amazing for a truck of its size) and real quiet - not all that far removed from the LS400. Other than my Denon stereo system at home I've never heard anything better than the Mark Levinson stereo when playing cd's so don't pass that up.
#639 of 1474 considering lx470
Nov 30, 2002 (7:32 pm)
I like lx470, but for a +$60K car, disappointed about not having dual climate and in-dash CD player. Does any one think this is a significant factor? the sc430 has both, which i use frequently. otherwise, i may go with TLC, gx470, or even 4runner until the new lx comes out.
#640 of 1474 nav system pushed out in dash cd
Nov 30, 2002 (9:05 pm)
They had the six disc in dash cd player when they had the Nakamichi. But when the introduced the nav mated to the Mark Levinson it bumped the in-dash cd player back to the glove box (though that is not the case in the Lexus cars).
moj1 - the climate control is great on the LX. I wouldn't let the lack of either dual controls for air or the missing in-dash cd deter you from an LX. It's a fabulous truck.
Imagine shelling out $85k for an S-class and you still have the cd player in the trunk. The glove box isn't so bad.
By the way the new LX model will be bigger (Sequoia frame) more luxuriou still and more expensive when it comes in as a late 2004 or 2005 model. That's why they are introducing the GX which looks like a run away success already.
#641 of 1474 Advance TRAC is from Ford, I believe.
Dec 01, 2002 (9:07 am)
TRAC is Toyota's way of saying traction control. In 2001, the LX was marketed with VSC and "TRAC", not "Advance TRAC" as far as I know. You'll never find out about ATRAC because that's a technology for audio compression from Sony (I think).
So, maybe things changed from 2000 to 2001 but I don't it could have been that significant. I thought that all this electronic wizardry might make up for the lack of locking differentials but that's not really true. There are cases where you can get stuck until you lock the central differential.
#642 of 1474 Sorry, I meant ActiveTRAC
Dec 01, 2002 (6:05 pm)
That's the terminology Toyota uses.