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#1263 of 1460 Re: What Is Lexus Marketing Thinking? [mark156] by luap Dec 04, 2005 (11:39 am)
Replying to: mark156 (Dec 03, 2005 5:29 pm) Mark - I appreciate the feedback. I also like the LR3 (HSE), but the reliability (latest Consumer Guide/Reports) is my concern. Maybe more data will be available in the very near future. In the mean time, I think I'll take an XC90 and LR3 out for a "spin". What a shame that LEXUS makes a product that appeals to a very small population. I don't think the LX470 is breaking any sales records. I sent them an email but never received a response - I wonder why. I guess it's time to shop around.
#1264 of 1460 What Is Lexus Marketing Thinking? by luap by mercara Dec 04, 2005 (4:30 pm)
Toyota in general has a "We know what's best for you attitude". But they make really good cars/trucks and people buy them. My brother recently was looking for a 4Runner until he was told that he couldn't have the sunroof and Navigation together. What's up with that. Anyway he brought a Honda Pilot.   If you aren't happy with the LX470, you may want to consider the MDX. It's the best Soft Roader out there. I would stay away from LR3 due to quality issues unless you are leasing in which case you will be still under warranty.
#1265 of 1460 Re: What Is Lexus Marketing Thinking? [luap] by rcf8000 Dec 04, 2005 (6:58 pm)
Replying to: luap (Dec 03, 2005 5:02 pm) I can understand why someone would want a vehicle with the combined features of an LX470 and an LS430, but without the off-road features. I happen to have an '05 LS and an '04 LX. I use the LX for most of my around-town errand running, and the LS for most of my highway driving. I don't need the off-road features of the LX, I don't need the awd, and I don't need the 8 passenger capability. But I do need the hauling capability. I've been looking at the Audi Q7. It has a lot of features that the LX doesn't have, like keyless ignition, power tailgate, and adaptive cruise control. I don't especially like the styling, though. The MB R500 is interesting, too, but MB carries a lot of negatives for me, and I don't like the styling of it, either. Replies to this message: oac (Dec 04, 2005 8:22 pm) psigon13 (Dec 05, 2005 2:15 am) rcf8000 (Dec 05, 2005 5:49 am) nedzel (Dec 05, 2005 8:53 am)
#1266 of 1460 Re: What Is Lexus Marketing Thinking? [luap] by nedzel Dec 04, 2005 (8:13 pm)
Replying to: luap (Dec 03, 2005 5:02 pm) Well, we'll agree to disagree on this one.   I live in the Northeast. I would not consider a 2WD truck. And I certainly don't understand the point of a 2WD SUV -- if you don't need 4WD, get a minivan or station wagon instead.   As for a power tail gate, that would be ok, but not required for me. Parking sensors would be a good thing. I've got no need for a smart key and think auto seatbelt height adjusters are completely pointless.   Are the LX470 and Land Cruiser a bit long in the tooth? Sure. But unlike many poser competitors, they are actually competent off road (albeit a tad large and the angles aren't great).   My point is that what is a requirement to you may not even be a nice to have for someone else.
#1267 of 1460 Re: What Is Lexus Marketing Thinking? [rcf8000] by oac Dec 04, 2005 (8:22 pm)
Replying to: rcf8000 (Dec 04, 2005 6:58 pm) This discussion is very interesting to me. I own a '99 LS which began its life Nov 1998, 7 years and 109K miles later it continues to soldier on unperturbed. I am amazed at the quality and reliability of this car. It sounds and drives like new, despite the years and the miles.... And that, more than anything else was what made the decision to own another Lexus a no-brainer.   This past week, I purchased a 2003 LX470, although I live in So Cal where 4WD is not a necessity, there is a plan to move out east next year, so I will need the 4WD of the LX. For a very brief time, I considered the Porsche Cayenne S Turbo, but reliability issues doomed that thought. Land Rover, Range Rover, and ML have way too many reliability issues as well, so I didn't consider these. At the end I went back to the LX after not finding anything else better out there. For sheer quality, solidness, reliability, and ultimate luxurious f/s SUV, you'd be hard pressed to find another truck better than the LX.   In many reviews of f/s luxury SUVs, the LX has either been on top or a whisker from winning, despite its age and power deficiences. The LX just keeps trucking on.... just like the LC has been for 50 years now. Replies to this message: psigon13 (Dec 05, 2005 2:15 am) rcf8000 (Dec 05, 2005 5:49 am) nedzel (Dec 05, 2005 8:53 am)
#1268 of 1460 Re: What Is Lexus Marketing Thinking? [oac] by psigon13 Dec 05, 2005 (2:15 am)
Replying to: oac (Dec 04, 2005 8:22 pm) I understand all the issues mentioned and took them into consideration in my own decision making process, but I went ahead with the purchase of an 06 LX470. I would've liked the smart key and my wife would've preferred the power liftgate. Other than that the car is loaded with all the amenities and safety features anyone could ask for. Ultimately, the butter smooth ride and superb reliability seemed more important than either gripe. And to some poeple, like myself, I love the fact that the car can really handle itself off road...although, I can't ever see myself putting it to the test.   The looks of a car is always a subjective opinion, but I'm 30 and I love the distinguished look of the LX. I took a look at the Escalade, Navigator, QX, Rangerover, XC90 and Toureg for comparison. None of those had the perfect blend of refinement and reliability the LX achieves with ease. To me, it was an easy choice. Replies to this message: rcf8000 (Dec 05, 2005 5:49 am) nedzel (Dec 05, 2005 8:53 am)
#1269 of 1460 Re: What Is Lexus Marketing Thinking? [psigon13] by rcf8000 Dec 05, 2005 (5:49 am)
Replying to: psigon13 (Dec 05, 2005 2:15 am) If there was a Lexus minivan, I might buy one of those. I traded a Sienna for my LX, by the way, and my wife was very unhappy about it, saying that the Sienna was better than the LX in every way. Well, I don't agree with that. Some of the difference is psychological.
#1270 of 1460 offroad by nedzel Dec 05, 2005 (8:53 am)
Replying to: psigon13 (Dec 05, 2005 2:15 am) I suppose I'm in the minority. I regularly take my 2003 4Runner offroad. Not Moab, mind you, but I do take it offroad hunting and fishing.
#1271 of 1460 Low Tire Pressure Warning by sidgriggs Dec 07, 2005 (3:57 pm)
Is the spare tire part of the Low Tire Pressure Warning system? I have been to the dealer twice this week because the warning like came on on my dash--and stayed on. Each time the dealer checked the tire pressure; added where needed; and reset the system--But they never told me they checked the spare, so I was wondering if that is where the problem might be. Anyone have any ideas?
#1272 of 1460 Re: Towing on > 2003-2005 LX470 [mercara] by gas61 Dec 08, 2005 (4:34 am)
Replying to: mercara (Jan 20, 2005 3:10 pm) The '03-'05 LX470 has the ability to tow 6500lbs with 12,400lbs combined weigth limit. The bumper hitch/reveiver, standard on the '03-05', has a 5000/10,9000 lb. limit. Using an under the bumper mounted Toyota/lexus hitch will allow the higer rating. The mounting holes are there. I confirmed this with the dealer, Lexus Customer Sat and serching the Lexus/Toyota tech websites. The '06 LX swithed back to the under bumber hitch (the same as the LC) and a 6500lb rating.

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