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Lexus LX 470, SUV
#1106 of 1476 LX 470 or Range Rover
Sep 04, 2004 (10:40 am)
I am thinking about purchasing an SUV with a V8 engine, off-road capability, luxurious interior and a nice ride. Right now I have a BMW 330Ci coupe which I love but just doesn't give me enough room. I tested the X5 which doesn't have a very smooth ride and I didn't like the Cayenne's cheap interior materials. The only vehicles out there that really met my preferences are the Land Rover Range Rover, Lexus LX470, or the Lexus GX470. I didn't like the GX's swing out door, so now I'm trying to decide between the Rover or the LX. I think the Range Rover has good looks, especially the cool LED taillamps and the xenon headlights. The LX has neither of these, but it does have Bluetooth and DVD Navigation. I didn't try out the stereo systems, but I like the Harmon Kardon in my BMW, so I assume it's just as good in the Rover as the LX's Mark Levinson. Both vehicles seem about the same in terms of size, performance, off-roading abilities, pricing, cabin furnishings, and ride quality, although the dealer said the LX doesn't have rack and pinion steering. I was very inclined to go with the Range Rover because of its stellar looks, but I'm wary of the company's bad reputation for poor build quality and the fact that it's now owned by Ford, which is not exactly in stable financial condition right now. I wonder why BMW got rid of Land Rover even though it invested so much in the Range Rover, which I think is an excellent SUV? The LX has been out since 1998 and looks refined and luxurious but ordinary compared to the stylish and more modern Rover. However, Lexus does have a reputation for excellent build quality and luxurious interiors on par with Mercedes-Benz and BMW. Although the LX is based on the Land Cruiser, which has a distinguished heritage, the Range Rover has a more prominent one, not to the mention that it seems like Lexus may decide to discontinue the LX. Does anyone have any opinions on which would be a better choice?
#1107 of 1476 Re: LX 470 or Range Rover [caltri]
Sep 04, 2004 (11:58 am)
The LX470 does have rack and pinion steering. The Range Rover has somewhat better handling and acceleration, but the terrible reliability would rule it out for me.
Sep 04, 2004 (3:31 pm)
BMW dumped Land Rover because it never made them any money, and it hasn't made any for Ford either. Ford may also dump it next month. But Ford owning L/R shouldn't be a turn off, rather they are likely the salvation of the brand, given how they have taken Jaguar from a horrible unreliable car in the 80's and before, to #2 in initial quality and dependability as well. Your problem may be who Ford sells L/R to, if they do. Meanwhile, the RR is probably the best off road vehicle in the world - but it is trouble prone as said above. The engine is still BMW and the electricals are not up to par yet.
The Lexus is proven, and although not as attractive nor does it possess the cache the Rover does, it will aggravate you a lot less.
#1109 of 1476 Re: LX 470 or Range Rover [caltri]
Sep 07, 2004 (4:13 am)
I had a phenomenal experience in the LX and recommend it highly. Lexus is not going to dicontinue it at all. They are going to make it larger and even more luxurious in 2006 or 2007. It is extremely well built and has top shelf reliability. I'm also not so sure the Range Rover has better heritage than the TLC as the latter is a legendary SUV. But the heritage would'nt influence me anyway. I'm more prone to better build quality, reliability and present day dynamics and no one builds them or has better reliability than Lexus these days. The other thing is I always beware a brand (no matter what industry you are discussing) that is undergoing switches in ownership. That scenario always causes instability in management and workers and the latter leads to poor product builds and development. The accountability is just lacking in such a situation and Land Rover always had the reliability issues anyway.
By the way I'm in the GX now because my wife wanted a smaller SUV. The LX size intimidated her otherwise I would have taken another LX no questions asked. We are also heving excellent experience with the GX. Another high quality vehicle but it is in a different class than the Range Rover and LX. Nonetheless it is still a highly luxurious and beautiful riding SUV.
Have you looked at the Tourag at all? It would be on my list to check.
Sep 07, 2004 (3:42 pm)
If you're into quality and reliability, you may want to check the boards on Edmunds about the Touareg before you put it on your list. They make the Range Rover look like a Camry by comparison.
#1111 of 1476 nvbanker
Sep 07, 2004 (4:18 pm)
That bad huh. Such a good looking suv too. By the way my old boss took the cayenne and got it delivered to his home. When it arrived (via trailer) it wouldn't start. After 3 days at the shop the porsche mechanics couldn't get it to work either. They had to ship him another one. He had 6 months of a healthy vehicle and then the problems started mounting again and its been in the shop alot since. He's a type A personality who sent back an E-class because of problem after problem. The one that broke the camels back was when his brakes failed on the Henry Hudson parkway in NYC. He had the car towed to the MB dealer and they took him out of his lease. They do those things for you when they know you have $30-40mln banked. I had dinner with him last week and and told him that's why I always buy Lexus as those things just don't ever happen to you. Then he surprised me and told me he joined the club and bought an LX470 for his summer home on Cape Cod and said he now knew what I meant. He's now working Porsche to get out of the cayenne lease and into a 911 and will bring the Lex down here.
Sep 07, 2004 (9:55 pm)
You know, the Cayenne is a Touareg on steroids (and a supercharger), right? I rest my case.
#1113 of 1476 BEARING BLOWOUT
Oct 05, 2004 (6:30 am)
Has anyone experience this or can offer suggestions? I was going 65 mph on cruise control on my 2001 LX470 when I heared a loud pop and smoke coming from the left front wheel. I had it towed to a Toyota dealership. They said the bearing blew out. The seals blew and now they have to replace the bearing, hub and spindle because the heat damaged all of the above. They never seen anything like this before. Is this a manufacturing defect? Do you think it the manufacturer can do something like reimbursement? The vehicle has 94,000 miles on it and never had a problem, and I always take it in for regular maintenance.
Oct 18, 2004 (8:05 pm)
Anyone have experience with installing a TRD Supercharger on the 4.7L V8 for the LX470? I am considering this add-on for a 2003 and would be interested to hear any feedback on installation and maintenance. I would also be curious to learn if there was any notable increase in engine noise.
#1115 of 1476 Re: TRD Superchargers [riffmeister]
Oct 19, 2004 (2:28 pm)
The TRD supercharger is no longer available for the LX470.