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BMW X5, Auto Body, Engine, Suspension, SUV
#619 of 685 Re: X5 Reservation [mtnbiker5]
Mar 25, 2010 (5:34 pm)
had several rx's all good, my daughter wanted the x-5....it has 57,000mi, out of warranty, and now needs a new radiator because the BMW service dept says the gasket breaks due to the temperature extremes of the engine???? Does this mean that every 57000 miles I will have to replace the radiator? This reason didn't work for me and I called the consumer affairs dept of BMW of America and asked Jim to help as an intermediary. He said it would take about 4-5 days. After more than a week, I called back to find he had not yet gotten hold of the service manager. I asked for his supervisor. His supervisor, Eric, said he would get back to me within the day. No phone call.....still waiting. As well I have a 2009 528 xi BMW...it's electric window will not roll down in cold weather???? Don't get the love for the BMW brand...
#620 of 685 Valley pan gasket and the list goes on
Mar 25, 2010 (10:56 pm)
Having given our 2003 4.4i X5 to our son Jan 2009, 58K...no problems to really speak of over the time we had it. Thought it would be a great vehicle for him for several years! NOT! He has had to replace linkages $1800, rotors (4th time for those...rest were under warranty when we had it) $1500, tires..due to the linkage problem, the wear was uneven, $1200. Now, a valley pan gasket $1600+ since it is somewhere behind the engine..now these should never wear out and leak...design issue. We think the rotor issue is also a design problem...who would think these have to be changed every 20K! Thought BMW were rugged, well designed/built to last. Windshield wiper motor also..$700 although by looking at the problem, it could be repaired and not replaced. I hope BMW doesn't just build vehicles to make it through the warranty period!! The dealers in LI are hopeless. BMW needs to do something about that. The more I read, the more I am seeing that these vehicles are not what we all believed them to be, truly well built and reliable machines. Sad thing is we have now a 2009 X5 Diesel which so far is excellent...but are we in for a surprise there also...now I am worried instead of being a Happy BMW owner. Our son has to get rid of his since he is not going to put any more $ into it...what will be next..he has only had it now 14 mos with all these costs! Who else has seen the valley pan gasket probm?
#621 of 685 Re: Valley pan gasket and the list goes on [laaky]
Mar 26, 2010 (4:21 pm)
I hate to tell you, but you are getting seriously screwed on those repair costs. For example, you should be able to get a set of front and rear rotors from a dealer for less than $500. Pads would be another $250, so you are paying a $750 labor charge for what should be a two hour job- tops. OEM quality rotors and pads would cost even less- $390 for pads/rotors. As for tires, Tire Rack has the excellent Conti all season DWS tire for $700 plus shipping and installation. Wiper motor? MSRP is $350; how many hours did the dealer charge for labor? The valley pan gasket is a known problem with some V8s(which is why all nine of my BMWs have been inline fours or sixes). Still, I doubt that an indie shop would charge much over $1000 to do the same job. I strongly suggest you join the BMW Car Club of America and check out BIMRS.org to locate a qualified independent BMW tech. Most shops offer BMW CCA discounts on parts and/or labor and CCA membership gives you access to a network of helpful tech information as well as an excellent monthly magazine.
In my case I'm very fortunate in that I have an excellent local dealer who that offers great service at reasonable prices as well as a good indie BMW shop. As a result, the maintenance and repair costs for my 121K mile 1995 3 Series and my wife's 93K mile 2004 X3 are extremely low(5 cents per mile).
#622 of 685 Re: Valley pan gasket and the list goes on [roadburner]
Mar 26, 2010 (7:49 pm)
Thanks and good infor to follow up on. You say the valley pan gasket is a known prob on 'some' V8's so am I correct that it is not a rampant problem? I wonder if BMW would do right and fix this at a reasonable cost. In today's mechanical engineering world, this type of failure should not exist. Reasonble maintenance expenses are acceptable, but we feel too much is falling apart too soon, and fear what will be next. I would like to think there is hope to feasibly keep this vehicle for our son a few more years.
Will check out the independent service centers immediately. Will update as it goes. Anybody know of a great independent garage Central LI...with experience to back it?
#623 of 685 Re: Valley pan gasket and the list goes on [laaky]
Mar 26, 2010 (8:06 pm)
You say the valley pan gasket is a known prob on 'some' V8's so am I correct that it is not a rampant problem?
I doesn't happen to all V8s, and it isn't as prevalent as leaky valve cover gaskets.
I would like to think there is hope to feasibly keep this vehicle for our son a few more years.
Like I said, the key is finding a good indie shop. Once you join BMW CCA you'll be able to contact local members and they can point you in the right direction.
#624 of 685 transfer case oil grade
Aug 07, 2010 (9:41 pm)
what is the oil grade for a bmw x5 2002 transfer case and hove to change the trans fluid
#625 of 685 Re: transfer case oil grade [ajames9230]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Aug 08, 2010 (8:05 am)
which engine? There might be a difference in specs.
#626 of 685 Re: transfer case oil grade [ajames9230]
Aug 08, 2010 (8:02 pm)
Buy the transfer case fluid from a BMW dealer. Here is the official BMW transmission/oil application chart. In any case there should be a label on the transmission sump that states which ATF to use.
An X5 ATF change DIY can be found here.
I suggest changing the TC fluid and ATF every 50,000-60,000 miles.
#627 of 685 Re: Leaking Washer Fluid [kris2]
Aug 26, 2010 (9:57 am)
I had exactly the same problem on my 2001 X5 around 80k miles. It relies on washer pump's bottom half's plastic elasticity to plug in to the washer tank. Over the years, the plastic lost its elasticity so the windshield fluid creeps up between the washer pump and windshield fluid tank which cause the dripping. I think it is design flow. If BMW can put a rubber washer between these two parts, then it will not leak or just replacing the rubber washer. Shame on the design.
I will use Teflon/Plummer tape to wrap around the bottom half of the washer pump to see if it will stop the leak.
#628 of 685 Re: dealership says X5 rotors must ALWAYS be changed with pads, help [kellywarren]
Sep 06, 2010 (8:49 am)
The dealership in Orlando told me the same thing. While under the maintenance warranty, I didn't question it and had them do it. Next time, after the warranty expired, the front brake job price was $700 for pads and rotors, which sounded inflated. I then replaced the pads and the pad sensor myself for about $100 and an hour of my time. The rotors looked good (thanks to the warning sensor alerting me of low pads, credit to BMW for that). The rotors had no wear ridges, I think I also used a micrometer to measure them but don't remember. I didn't even turn the rotors, and the brakes work perfectly smooth. That was a year ago and maybe 10K miles, and they're still perfect.