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#425 of 685 dealership says X5 rotors must ALWAYS be changed with pads, help
Apr 29, 2006 (9:05 am)
Is this true. The service rep BMW of Dallas (formerly John Roberts BMW) says the car (X5 2002 3.0 w/ 20k miles only driven by my elderly mother) is designed to have the rotors changed every time the pads are changed. Rep says the pads are made of a soft metal that is designed to wear down with the pads. This sounds suspicious to me. Never heard of anything like this before. Is this true? Thanks for the help.
#426 of 685 Re: dealership says X5 rotors must ALWAYS be changed with pads, help [kellywarren]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Apr 29, 2006 (9:46 am)
Perhaps you misunderstood. Many modern cars mandate no "turning" of rotors IF...IF...they are scored or grooved. But you don't replace perfectly smooth, straight and clean rotors that are within specification.
#427 of 685 Re: dealership says X5 rotors must ALWAYS be changed with pads, help [Mr_Shiftright]
Apr 29, 2006 (10:58 am)
No. I have not misunderstood. I used to be a motorhead myself prior to my present incarnation. I've owned >100 cars myself in my 39 years, including several other German makes (although this and the other X5 (a 2004 4.4 w/ 20k which I consider to be my daily driver) are only the 4th and 5th BMWs that I've owned (had a couple of 3 series in the 80's as well as a 3.0csi before that).
According to the dealership (BMW of Dallas) every time that the pads are changed the rotors must also be changed. No exceptions. According to the service rep (Beth) the pads are designed to wear down into the metal of the rotors such that by the time the pads need to be changed, the metal surfaces of the rotors are damaged (by design) and thus the rotors themselves must also be replaced. To me this sounds like a load of cr-p. However, not having any experience w/ BMW in the last 16 years I am not 100% sure that this is not true. Let me restate again what I have been told: even if the rotors look good, they must still be replaced. I asked "what if I change the pads before they have damaged the rotors" and was told "no, the rotors will always have to be replaced because the pads by design are intended to cut into the surface of the rotors and you will never, ever have a rotor that does not need to be replaced after the car has undergone sufficient breaking to wear through the pads."
Let me also let you know that it was not me that dropped off the car but rather my elderly mom. I only found out that this work had been done after she phoned me this morning to say that the X5 was in the shop. I called BMW of Dallas after the fact and spoke with the service rep after the was done.
Now, to repeat my question for anyone with expertise in BMW brakes:
Do the rotors always need to be replaced when the pads or replaced or have I been fed a load of cr-p?
#429 of 685 2006 BMW X5 4.4 1st Gear Slows Down
May 13, 2006 (5:22 am)
Good Day Everyone:
I have the 2006 X5 4.4 for about 6 months now.
Does anyone know why the 1st gear not accelerating at it top speed? When I at a fully stop, then step on gas, seems not moving well. But after about 3 seconds, it runs well on 2nd gear and on.
Is it the problem with the 1st gear? or it needs a new updated firmware?
#430 of 685 Re: Cabledude... [burrsr]
May 13, 2006 (11:28 pm)
Just bought a 2001 3.0 manual and since a rain storm in Boston noticed the exact problem you just had serviced.
BMW advised this is not covered under extended warranty; curious what you paid to have the water leak corrected?
#431 of 685 Re: 2001 BMW X5 Tons of Problems [1av8r]
May 21, 2006 (8:42 am)
i agree with you 200%. you would think you are getting a better vehicle since you are paying a premium price for it. although my x5 has not having so many problems as yours, it is bad enough to be the 2nd worest vehicle i have ever had (the worest one is my 323i, i have spent over $5000 to repair so far). as far as reliability, german auto makers are the worest in comparison to the japanese and american. i guess they are simply overwhelmed by the hi-tech application in the auto industry. the bmw dealership and service are well below the luxary-car-dealership standards, and is the worest among all.
#432 of 685 oil cosumption
May 21, 2006 (4:14 pm)
i have to add 1 quart of oil for my x5 3.0i at an interval of 5000 miles when i purchased the vehicle new (of course, i was told by the dealer that it is normal). now the problem is getting worse - 1 quart every 1000 miles. my 2005 330xi started with the same problem. i have to assume that this would be a common problem for a lot of bmw owners, at least for those who own the 3-liter models? i don't remember i have ever added a drop of motor oil for any other non-bmw models i have or had, including my 1982 mb 380sl with 180,000 miles on it.
#433 of 685 Re: 2001 BMW X5 Tons of Problems [1av8r]
May 21, 2006 (7:15 pm)
i think for a situation such as yours you may want to consider seeking help from the dept of motor vehicle, or state attorney general. the state lemon laws may apply to your case.
#434 of 685 22" Wheels on 2005 X5 3.0
Jun 11, 2006 (3:54 pm)
I added a set of aftermarket 22" wheels / tires to my 2005 BMW X5 3.0 with sports package last week. The ride is noticeably different and at certain speeds, the steering wheel lightly shakes. The original wheels were 18". I had an alignment done and the front tires/wheels rebalanced and things have not improved. To make the ride smoother, what type of suspension upgrade options are available? Do I need to put on a set of upgraded brakes/rotors?