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Land Rover Discovery, Land Rover Discovery Series II, Audio, Entertainment System, Navigation System, Performance Mods, SUV
#619 of 5002 Land Rover Woes
Jun 09, 2001 (9:29 am)
Well, I bought a '98 Range Rover 4.6 in Jan. with 30K miles & a very clean service history; with all dealer service records indicating no real problems. In the last month I have had it back to the dealer 5 times for various (mainly electrical) problems.... every time I get it back maybe one of the problems is fixed but there are at least one or 2 new problems. This has become a 2nd job for me, dealing with this vehicle. And this is reputably one of the better LR dealers.
To those of you contemplating purchasing a Land Rover, I wish you luck. And of course, Discos are not quite as complex as RR's so maybe that will be in your favor. What the service people finally tell you to, after you've spent many many afternoons in their waiting room, is to tell you that LR's are "quirky".
The waiting room at "my" LR dealer is quite nice, with gourmet coffees, a receptionist handing out flowers, etc. What they really should have is a Bar, filled with Absolute, Jameson, etc. because that's what you may finally require to put up with your "quirky" LR.
Today for instance, I spent all afternoon at the dealer (yet again)... took it in to have the computer code reset......& the AC looked at. They literally brought out the vehicle 3 times, handed me the key, gave me the "rap", & each time I went to leave something else was wrong with it. Finally, I left, with the stereo not working (a new problem!), with them assuring me that it would be OK (?) I'm now wondering if the dealer can ever get everything on it working long enough (at the same time, no less) in order for me to sell it??? I drive past the BMW, Toyota, & Acura dealers on my way home from the LR dealer, but there are always still so many things wrong with my Range Rover I'm afraid to try to trade it in in that condition.
This is not fun...... LR's look great, they have a mystique, yuppie cachet, & all that, but (esp.if you don't intend to take it off road) is it worth it? I've had more trouble with this thing in 6 months than I've ever had with my 12 y.o BMW, or had with my 1990 Saab in 8 years, (not a car with a great reliability record itself).
Anyway, thanks for listening to me rant, I would just caution prospective LR owners to ask yourselves how you're gonna feel if your vehicle does turn out to be a service nightmare. BTW, this board is great, I've gotten great advice in the past, from Nanuq (re: snow tires, etc), & others.
#620 of 5002 Standard shift Landrover Disco
Jun 09, 2001 (2:46 pm)
I am shopping for a used disco and have only found 1 standard shift. Have been told they stopped importing them in 97' anyone with one note any particular problems? Why no standards in the US?
#621 of 5002 Standards sold poorly
Jun 09, 2001 (8:25 pm)
Standard transmissions are quite rare in NA spec Discoverys. Sales were stopped due to lack of demand.
Jun 09, 2001 (8:27 pm)
What dealer is it? Has there tech called the LR Dealer support tech hotline? If you post the last 8 numbers of your vin I can check the logs to see what may have been reported if they did.
#623 of 5002 standard shift discovery
Jun 10, 2001 (8:39 am)
I'm also thinking about buying a 5-speed standard discovery. Does anyone know if they're more difficut (or expensive) to maintain and service than automatics? What's their record for reliability?
#624 of 5002 Looking at a 95 Disco
Jun 10, 2001 (11:10 am)
I'm looking at a 95 Discovery with 92,xxxmi on it. What should I look for when I head in to test drive it? Any common problems? Warning signs? Thanks in advance...
#625 of 5002 Disco trannies
Jun 11, 2001 (10:22 am)
Disco automatic transmissions are made by ZF, it's the same trans that's spec'd into the high end Mercedes. L-R recently issued a notice that the service requirements are altered for the ZF; there's a 30k mile service, then NO additional service for the life of the vehicle other than fluid changes. The ZF is known to be bullet-proof.
Many people can't imagine an automatic for true offroading, but in low range the ZF is very abrupt and very solidly locked up. It crawls just like a manual but you won't fry a clutch and you have that good control over traction with the long-travel throttle.
Jun 11, 2001 (8:13 pm)
I would agree with Nanuq, it works well for off-roading, and when your in tight spots you probably will be happy you don't have a stick. Also, one of my mechanics has a 1995 Disco that's a manual and he had a very hard time finding the parts he needed for tranny work.
#627 of 5002 Trannies and getting buried
Jun 11, 2001 (10:07 pm)
One very bizarre thing that most here probably (hopefully) will never experience: I've buried my Disco up to the headlights in snow and had to dig out. When you go quickly from forward to reverse to get that back-and-forth rocking going, it's easy to over-do the throttle and spin all 4 tires. Then when you shift D - R - D it makes BAD sounds. So reasonably, you use the brakes to quickly stop the tires for the fast shift... and the ABS takes over, preventing you from immediately stopping the drivetrain! It's the strangest feeling, but it's there. Times like that I wish there were an override for the ABS.
Yes, you CAN use the parking brake to stop the drivetrain but you're risking your transfer case so it's a good idea not to.
Happy Rovering! -Bob
#628 of 5002 A rescue this weekend!
Jun 11, 2001 (10:12 pm)
I was heading out for some mtn biking, there were 4 of us in Anuqa, all our riding gear and packs, and 4 mtn bikes: 2 inside and 2 on the rack behind. Driving south we came upon a friend broken down by the road, his wheel had come off (on a Ford van, not a Rover). So we went back, and wound up loading up his 3 boys and all their camping gear from a 4-day outing, and put all 4 mtn bikes on the rack. We headed back to town with 7 people, 3 huge packs, 4 helmets, 4 day packs, water bottles and snacks, and 4 mtn bikes... and the Rover felt just fine... no complaints, no funny handling, no wandering. Everyone got home fine, and the Rover dealt with it effortlessly. Then the jump seats folded back up, we aired out the stink from their 4 days of camping, and we went our merry way.
What a versatile truck!