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#468 of 5001 Problems In Getting Quality Service from My Land Rover Dealer in Virginia!
May 07, 2001 (11:34 am)
I am a recent Land Rover Discovery II (2001) owner. I bought my discovery in January this year. I have had a couple of nagging problems that HBL Land Rover (Tyson's Corner, VA) has had difficulty in fixing. My latest problem is my ABS & T/C lights come on each time I drive the vehicle. When I reported the problem to HBL service, it took 5 weeks to get the truck in for service. When I contacted Land Rover of North America, there seemed to be nothing they could do to help.
Once the truck was taken in for service, the dealer kept it 5 days, and low and behold!, the problem still exists.
I believe the Discovery is a very well built vehicle, I have just been very disappointed with HBL of Tyson's and the quality of their service department. There are other Land Rover dealers in the Washington, D.C. area, but none are as convenient as HBL, so I am somewhat stuck.
I have never been in a more solidly built truck, but if anyone out there is looking to buy a Land Rover and lives in the Northern Virginia area, I would "strongly" encourage you to look hard at the dealers ability to service your vehicle in a "timely" manner. 5 weeks to get a vehicle in for service is a complete outrage.
Previously, I had problems with my inside dome lights, which took the dealer 2 visits and a total of 3 days to repair.
I envy you people that have quality Land Rover dealerships to work with.
#469 of 5001 Problems In Getting Quality Service from My Land Rover Dealer in Virginia! by stalnakerw
May 07, 2001 (11:58 am)
If I were you, I would drive to the one in Alexandria. I have work done at both HBL and LR Of Alexandria, and to me, Alexandria was out of the way and HBL is just across my office in Tyson's but still worth the travel. I agree with you though no the waiting times. Since I guess there are a lot of Land Rovers in the area and just 3 dealers nearby, there are probably back logs.
#470 of 5001 Diesel Discovery Series 2
May 07, 2001 (2:39 pm)
Why is it that in the USA there is no apparent market for diesel Land Rovers (or any other SUV) ? In the UK the vast majority of Discoveries are sold with Diesel engines. The Series 2 comes with a TD5 engine (which is a 5 cylinder direct injection using ultra high pressure injectors). These engines provide as much torque as the V8 at half the engine revs, do 30mpg, are quiet, clean and very durable. Even with cheap gas in the US I would still have expected a demand for the diesel option. Is this just a fashion/prejudice thing or is there something I dont know about US legislation/pricing ?
May 07, 2001 (3:26 pm)
I don't know why this model isn't here. I would have seriously considered getting one. I am getting about 14-15 miles per gallon.
I'll give you the general attitude of Americans about diesels. We don't like them. In the gas cruch of the early 80's, our then crappy car manufactorers decided they would convert regular engines to diesels and drop them in all the big cars. This was done quickly. End result, they were very crappy. They stunk, were very loud, made big clouds of smoke, had absolutely no power, and of course always broke down. This turned most people's opinions against diesels as a whole.
The only exceptions are the pickup trucks. Detroit and the big three all make great diesel truck engines.
So, in the end, very few experienced the great diesels from Mercedes and some other European car makers and only had bad ones from the American car makers. Therefore, there really isn't a strong market.
But, it shouldn't be long. Our gas prices are going through the roof now (under US standards), and so many people have SUVs. Sooner or later they'll get sick of the prices, Like ME!
I would seriously consider a diesel Disco II. Doesn't sound like there are any shortcomings.
#472 of 5001 Octane rating?
May 07, 2001 (4:35 pm)
To continue the gas thread: I live in the Bay Area where a gallon of 87 went over $2.00 this week.
Now, Discovery manual says "use 90 or higher" and the folks at the dealership (unofficially of course) - use whatever as long as it does not ping. I tried Shell 87 once and it ran fine.
So the question is - would I be ruining anything if I use 89 or 87? Anybody has good/bad experience?
#473 of 5001 Octane Rating
May 07, 2001 (8:46 pm)
I have put nothing by 89 Octane into my 2000 Disco II when I bought it in April 2000 and have had no problems yet. I am intrigued by the 87 octane rating. There is a 20 cent difference between 87 and 92 here in Kansas City. I figured 89 was close to 90 so I use it.
Any other people out there using 87 without any problems?
#474 of 5001 Octane and Discovery
May 07, 2001 (9:44 pm)
The Discovery will run on 87 octane but the engine ECU will retard the timing to stop the inevitable ping. The engine has knock sensors that are very sensitive, and they will signal the ECU to retard the timing before you will ever hear the ping. Performance will suffer as will fuel mileage. If ran long enough the ECU will "memorise" the retarded settings and will run at those settings until the ECU is reset.
Diesel Discovery's are not in the cards for the US market as sales are not deemed sufficient to require the retailers to incur the additional costs in training and equipt to service them. The majority of Land Rover retailers are stand alone facilities that do not have huge volumes to support the additional expense. With the launch of Freelander in Dec. and the new Range Rover next may, LRNA and the retailers are pretty much maxed out in getting new product in place.
#475 of 5001 2003 Discovery II changes?
May 08, 2001 (1:58 pm)
I read somewhere in this board that the 2002 Discovery II will remain the same as the 2001 and that it was the 2003 model that will have changes done to it. I believe it was posted by "tincup47". I was wondering if anyone knows what those changes will be, especially if the engine will be changed (more horsepower?).
Thanks in advance.
#476 of 5001 Should I buy Disco II SD/or toyota sequoia
May 08, 2001 (5:39 pm)
Hi I am looking seriously at a Disco. The only problem I see is the dealer is 80 miles away. I am worried about small problems becoming giant ones. Is it true the LR company will pick it up and get you a loaner?
#477 of 5001 Should I buy Disco II SD/or toyota sequoia by sundancer1
May 09, 2001 (6:10 am)
A friend who used to live in a small town in MI had a Disco and the nearest dealership is 2 hours away. He said, they come and pick up his Disco and leaves him a Disco loaner. Can't remember the name of the dealerships he goes to.