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#4545 of 5002 The 2003 Discovery SE7 that I just traded in -----UGH!!!
May 02, 2006 (10:54 am)
I am here to vent, and to warn others about the cost of maintaining this vehicle.
This vehicle has cost us $4,200 since Feb 2005, and that is not including the car note.
The engine runs fine...it is all the other things that break. I will list everything that was wrong with my vehicle from the time I took ownership - June 27,2003
(1) Radio not working properly..would not pick up AM station - had to get changed out
(2) Transmission - shifting was rough
(3) Driver's side window went down and never came back up
(4) Shade clip broke
(5) Rear wiper assembly broke and had to be replaced.
(6) Rotors and brakes repaired. Front and back
(7) The door lock - rear driver side - had to be fixed twice. Although I purchased the extended warranty, I still had to pay the "copay"
I can't remember what is was, but soon after I purchased the extended warranty, I need a $2,000 repair job - I had to pay $100 of that.
Just yesterday, when I went in for my $200 - 60 mile service, I was informed that my spark plugs and wiring are disintegrating. Because of how the wires are situated, (around the manifold or something - at this point, I stopped listening) it cost me $1,600 to replace 3 of the 6 plugs.
Luckily I was able to trade my vehicle got $18K for it - not bad at all. The Kelley Blue Book listed it for $18,074 in excellent condition.
I now have a Lincoln Zephyr. I have never been so disappointed in a vehicle as I was with the Land Rover.
#4546 of 5002 Re: The 2003 Discovery SE7 that I just traded in -----UGH!!! [atlanta_lisa]
May 03, 2006 (4:40 pm)
Atlanta Lisa, we need more information.
Its unfortunate that you had these problems but I don't see $4200 of work here unless you are counting the $2000 that the insurance picked up. Moreover, I'd love to learn more about the $1600 for three spark plugs. Did they install a new exahust manifold? Remove the engine? Please tell us more than you "simply stopped listening."
Finally, and not to pile on (really), before you congratulate yourself on the Disco trade, its difficult to evaluate the trade in price you received without knowing how much you paid for the Lincoln. In other words, I'd give you 18K for your Disco provided you bought something from me at an inflated list price. The bottom line is what matters, not what someone will give you for an antique clock if you buy a painting from him. Rolex watch dealers offer to their customers to always buy the Rolex back from their customers at a great price IF they later buy another, more expensive one at LIST price. With the dollar weakening and Rolex prices rising, this is a safe bet.
#4547 of 5002 Re: The 2003 Discovery SE7 that I just traded in -----UGH!!! [blckislandguy]
May 04, 2006 (6:32 pm)
The brakes needed to be replaced as well as the rotors REPLACED. The rotors on a land rover cannot be turned because they are so slim, so I had to purchase new rotorS - $1,200
the extended warranty $1,505
The spark plugs. There are 8 on this vehicle. The wires to the plug were disintegrating. This was found out as I took the car in for its 60,000 mile service. We responded to replace the ones that HAD to be replaced (that was three) the others, the hell with it b/c it was at this point we decided a trade was in order. The spark plugs themselves were 47.00 each. It was the labor that was expensive...it was my understanding that they had to remove the exhaust manifold and the engine because of how the car is wired. $1,600.
Everytime something breaks, even if it is under warranty, you have to pay the copay of $100 per visit. That was two visits. $200
So I am up to what - $4,305?
I AM congratulating myself because I got out of that damn car. The Kelley Blue Book for the 2003 Land Rover in Excellent condition is $18,074. I had high miles (61, 000+) and got $18,000 - I think that is good. We used the USAA negotiating service and got the Lincoln for $1,100 over invoice so before tax, title, etc. the cost was $30,084.
blckislandguy - you totally lost me on the Rolex analog
And yes, I stopped listening to the explanation as to why I am going to have to pay $1900 (the $200+ I was expecting to pay for the 60,000 service + the $1600 to get the spark plug wires replaced) because it was at that point I realized that I cannot afford to operate or maintain this vehicle any longer and I was on to plan B.
Hope this explains the situation a bit clearer.
#4548 of 5002 Re: The 2003 Discovery SE7 that I just traded in -----UGH!!! [atlanta_lisa]
May 06, 2006 (9:05 am)
Thanks for clarifying. My mother had a Buick Skylark with the same engine and I think we used to pick up ignition wire sets back in the early '60s for $5 and replace plugs and wires ourselves.
Despite my random moments when I think I want to get one for use on Block Island, the maintenance costs and issues amaze me.
#4549 of 5002 2001 Disco Series II V8 - Engine has Died
May 08, 2006 (4:34 am)
My 2001 V8 Landrover Discovery Series II has engine problems after approx. 130,000 kms. I bought it new and it has been serviced by Landrover dealers its whole life.
The car was idling a little rough one night driving home, so minor that anyone else would not have noticed it. The car would not start the next morning. Turning the key you got a loud clunk. The RACV eventually jump started it after 20 or so tries.
I was advised to take it to the dealer and get the battery and starter motor checked. I started off and the car over heated within 1 km. The car was then transported by truck to the dealer.
They say they have found coolant in the number 5 cylinder. It seems that the cylinder sleeve is leaking, which means a change over short motor.
I am absolutely disappointed and appalled that a modern engine that has had an easy life and been well maintained can give up the ghost with no warning at all and at such a relatively young age.
Is this a common problem with the 4.0 Ltr V8 engine?
Has anyone successfully resleeved an engine?
Has anyone successfully gotten Landrover to come to the party and help with the repairs?
#4550 of 5002 Used 2003 with 65,000 miles
May 11, 2006 (5:52 am)
Should I buy one? I have seen similar questions asked on this message board. Obviously Atlanta Lisa did not enjoy her LR, but the maintenance costs dont seem horrific. If I am reading it right, she only paid $3k for repairs after 3 years and 60,000 miles (the other $1500 was for extended warranty)? replaced the brakes and rotors (it stinks to replace the rotors, but they arent cheap) replaced the plugs, (its common for plugs to need replacing...the wires disintegrating is not common. stinks the plugs were buried too cause at $100 an hour for labor they ream you!
I dont know, I am a honda accord owner, and I appreciate the reliability. I just get in and go, no worries...and i plan to keep it as my daily driver, but I need an SUV/truck to tow my boat, and I have a good deal $16,500 for a 2003 with 65,000 miles on it that has been meticulously maintained, is super clean and has all highway miles (harly ever been offroad). I only plan to drive it 5000 miles per year, and mostly while I am towing my boat, and I hear it is a great hauler. My other options are an Expedition or Explorer or Tahoe or something along those lines. Not nearly as luxurious and all have reliability problems in their own right!! Any thoughts? I like the fact that this vehicle has been 65,000 with little problems and works great...but I dont want everything to crash down on me right after I buy it either!! thanks!!
#4551 of 5002 Re: Used 2003 with 65,000 miles [derail1]
May 12, 2006 (7:27 pm)
You are right about it being a great hauler. I have a '96 Disco 1 with 130K miles on it and still running strong. I have had minimal problems with it, and almost all of them I have been able to fix myself. I buy the factory recommended Champion plugs at $3.50 each, not $47.00. I change the oil myself, and have the maintenance CD. Every other oil change I swap out 1 quart of oil for 1 quart of ATF to clean out the carbon from the valves. I have hauled a U-haul over the rockies and cascades coast-to-coast. I use it regularly to haul around my 6,000 Lb 27 foot boat and you would be surprised the stares I get when people see me coming. They see this itty bitty truck hauling this huge boat and you can see the heads shaking, mouths gaping and bets changing hands at the ramp as to whether or not I am going to be able to launch/recover and haul it out. That is the only time I drop into low. The rest of the time I tow in High. So far at least 3 other people I know who had F-150's and Expeditions have traded them in because they saw what I could do, and saw me pulling my cruiser. So go ahead and get one. the odds of getting a bad one are slim. Don't let the dealer rip you off on maintenance and learn to get your hands dirty once in awhile. It will make you painfully aware of what things on your vehicle need maintenance, so you can tell when the professional mechanics are just trying to rip you off. I mean, come on, removing a manifold and engine to replace 3 spark plugs????? it's a 20 minute job to do yourself.
#4553 of 5002 Air to Coil Swap
May 15, 2006 (5:48 am)
Anyone have directions about swapping out the air suspension for coils on a Disco II? Or, any instructions about changing the springs and shocks. Thanks in advance!
#4554 of 5002 Re: The 2003 Discovery SE7 that I just traded in -----UGH!!! [atlanta_lisa]
May 17, 2006 (4:40 pm)
I too, have a 2003 Discovery II that I purchased in 2005 with 44,000 miles on it. I purchased an extended warranty when I bought the Discovery. I have put 14,000 miles on it in 14 months. The brakes and rotors have had to be replaced. The driver's side door locked and would not open, nor would the remote open the door. Extended warranty covered part of the repairs on that. Recently it has started running rough and skipping. Also the engine light came on. I had the spark plugs replaced and thought the problem was solved. Two miles down the road the light came on again. Now the Land Rover dealer says that I need new wires that will cost about $650.00. None of this will be covered by the extended warranty. I have not reached the 60,000 mile service yet, but have been told to expect about $650.00 for this also. I LOVE my car, I like the way it drives and handles. But I can't keep putting more money into it for things like this when it takes $60.00 to fill the gas tank. Is this just average repairs and maintenance for a Land Rover? Seems like a lot considering the miles I have put on it.